[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread B. Smith
She may win the nomination but I have a feeling Obama's coalition won't support her in a general election. The Clintons' tactics have left a bad taste in lot of black folks mouths and the younger voters and independents will stay away. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (f

[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread B. Smith
The Clintons' and their black surrogates started this mess by first questioning Obama's blackness and now have seemingly been successful by trying to pin him down as the black candidate. This debate didn't get heated until after Iowa and New Hampshire where race was less of a factor because bo

[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread GWashin891
While I truely can see this working. And I can see both Hillary and Bill (remember Sister Solder anyone) doing something like this. It will probally do some major long term harm to the democratic party as many blacks eventually see thru this.And for many it will probally be that finial

[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread GWashin891
Agree. And the repubs not only know this. They are hoping on it. Another thing this will to is depress the voter turn out among dems. And a low voter turn out always favored the repugs. So if the dems do lose the general you can put a major portion of it on the Clintions. -GTW In

[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 1/23/08 9:47:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I think the Clintons are so caught up in what they want, I do not think > that they care if they take down the party.  I think they are oblivious > to that fact that all these games might win them the nomination, but > doom us t

[scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread GWashin891
True. But I also hope I'm wrong because I feel the US and the world can't stand another 4 years or repug rule. -GTW In a message dated 1/23/08 9:50:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Perhaps the republicans had Clinton pegged right all along > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Agree.   And t

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Mike Street
People are tired of the same shit over and over again. Hilliary is cool but she represents the same shit to me. We need something new and a breath of fresh air. If Hilliary gets the nom. I'm voting for the indie candidate. On Jan 23, 2008 3:38 PM, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
same here. Mike Street wrote: > People are tired of the same shit over and over again. Hilliary is > cool but she represents the same shit to me. We need something new and > a breath of fresh air. If Hilliary gets the nom. I'm voting for the > indie candidate. > > On Jan 23, 2008 3:38 PM, B. Smith

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Gymfig
In a message dated 1/23/2008 3:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People are tired of the same shit over and over again. Hilliary is cool but she represents the same shit to me. We need something new and a breath of fresh air. If Hilliary gets the nom. I'm voting for the

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Gymfig
In a message dated 1/23/2008 4:55:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Clintons' and their black surrogates started this mess by first questioning Obama's blackness His blackness has always been an issue. He is either biracial or black. He is African or African America.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Gymfig
In a message dated 1/23/2008 8:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: will be very hard for the dems to get these people back. More importantly other eithnic groups-especially latinos then to watch how political parties treat blacks and respond in kind. The example of w

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Gymfig
In a message dated 1/23/2008 8:56:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you can put a major portion of it on the Clintions. No you can put it on black people who do't want to take responsibility for not coming out and voting even though "canidate" was not nominated. You can

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Bosco Bosco
I think that whomever gets the Dem Nomination will pull the support of the other's base come election day simply because the people that are willing to vote for Clinton and Obama just aren't down with the guys running on the Repub side. I'm down for Obama and I am down for Clinton because I don't

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I think the Clintons are so caught up in what they want, I do not think that they care if they take down the party. I think they are oblivious to that fact that all these games might win them the nomination, but doom us to another eight years of republicans without them in charge again. They

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Perhaps the republicans had Clinton pegged right all along [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Agree. And the repubs not only know this. They are hoping on it. > Another thing this will to is depress the voter turn out among dems. And a > low > voter turn out always favored the repugs. So if t

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread james
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
LOL, Thats for sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > DINO = Democrat In Name Only > > __ > James Landrith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 > AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 > MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith >

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clinton Will WIn By Losing South Carolina

2008-01-24 Thread Martin
Amen to that, brother. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DINO = Democrat In Name Only __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messen