Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-09 Thread Olivier Grisel
Ok as nobody expressed hard concerns w.r.t. dropping support for python 2.5, I think we can make that decision official now and close this vote. So let's officially support python 2.6, scipy 0.7.2 and numpy 1.3.0 from now on. I will try to find the time to setup a jenkins build + tests reflecting

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Fernando Perez
I'm not a contributor, but +1 for the drop of 2.5 compatibility (reasoning below) On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you > aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? one important point for dropping 2.5: it's far

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Robert Layton
On 9 December 2011 04:52, Olivier Grisel wrote: > Also Python 2.5 is no longer supported by the PSF, (since May 2011) > even for security fixes: > > Python 2.5.6 > >We are pleased to announce the release of Python 2.5.6, a security > fix release of Python 2.5, on May 26th, 2011. > > This is a

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Olivier Grisel
Also Python 2.5 is no longer supported by the PSF, (since May 2011) even for security fixes: Python 2.5.6 We are pleased to announce the release of Python 2.5.6, a security fix release of Python 2.5, on May 26th, 2011. This is a source-only release that only includes security fixes. The last

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
rright -- thanks Josef, just for completeness $> cat /tmp/1.py def f(arg1, arg2=1, **kwargs): print "got ", arg1, arg2, kwargs f(0, *(10,), buga=1) $> python2.5 /tmp/1.py File "/tmp/1.py", line 4 f(0, *(10,), buga=1) ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax $> python2.6 /tm

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Lars Buitinck
2011/12/8 Gael Varoquaux : > Yes. We'll probably be able to clean our backports in sklearn/utils. I > look forward to removing code. https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/pull/458 But there seems to be more scipy 0.7.0 compat stuff left for you :) -- Lars Buitinck Scientific programmer,

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 11:21:56AM -0500, David Warde-Farley wrote: > Indeed, while this might not be there, there is a lot of useful new stuff in > collections and itertools in 2.6 that may come in handy. Yes. We'll probably be able to clean our backports in sklearn/utils. I look forward to rem

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread David Warde-Farley
Sorry for the empty reply, clumsy phone fingers... On 2011-12-08, at 11:00, Lars Buitinck wrote: > 2011/12/8 Gael Varoquaux : >> On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:34:44AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >>> it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you >>> aiming to use which aren

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread David Warde-Farley
Sent from my iPhone On 2011-12-08, at 11:00, Lars Buitinck wrote: > 2011/12/8 Gael Varoquaux : >> On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:34:44AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >>> it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you >>> aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? >> >> Named t

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread David Warde-Farley
On 2011-12-08, at 10:12, Gael Varoquaux wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 04:09:00PM +0100, Olivier Grisel wrote: >> Gael suggested on a checkins comment on github to drop support for >> Python 2.5. Let's vote. Besides what is you opinion on oldest numpy / >> scipy supported version. > > I'd like

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Lars Buitinck
2011/12/8 Lars Buitinck : > collections.Counter This was introduced in 2.7, actually. But the rest of my wish list is there in 2.6 :) -- Lars Buitinck Scientific programmer, ILPS University of Amsterdam -- Cloud Service

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread josef . pktd
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:44:23AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> > and function calls of type 'f(arg1, arg2=1, **kwargs)'. >> hm... not sure what you mean (there was some change on how keyword args >> are handled but can't recall now),

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 05:00:57PM +0100, Lars Buitinck wrote: > class decorators Yes, I've missed class decorators so much. > If we want, we can even do from __future__ import print_function I could go with that. G -

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Lars Buitinck
2011/12/8 Gael Varoquaux : > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:34:44AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you >> aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? > > Named tuples, and function calls of type 'f(arg1, arg2=1, **kwargs)'. Stuff I've miss

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Skipper Seabold
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you > aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? > I'm not a contributor to scikit-learn, but I would use the getter/setter/deleter decorators for properties, if I didn't have t

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:44:23AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > and function calls of type 'f(arg1, arg2=1, **kwargs)'. > hm... not sure what you mean (there was some change on how keyword args > are handled but can't recall now), since following snippet works in both OK, so I got it wrong

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Thu, 08 Dec 2011, Gael Varoquaux wrote: > > aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? > Named tuples, yeah > and function calls of type 'f(arg1, arg2=1, **kwargs)'. hm... not sure what you mean (there was some change on how keyword args are handled but can't recall now), since following snippet

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Andreas Müller
On 12/08/2011 04:34 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you > aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? > As I am not so familiar with the Python versions, I was also wondering that. I'd like to pitch the versions in latest Ubuntu LTS: 10.04:

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:34:44AM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you > aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? Named tuples, and function calls of type 'f(arg1, arg2=1, **kwargs)'. In general, it is also about lower the bunden of

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
it might be handy to know which particular features of 2.6 are you aiming to use which aren't in 2.5... ? On Thu, 08 Dec 2011, Olivier Grisel wrote: > Gael suggested on a checkins comment on github to drop support for > Python 2.5. Let's vote. Besides what is you opinion on oldest numpy / > scipy

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 04:09:00PM +0100, Olivier Grisel wrote: > Gael suggested on a checkins comment on github to drop support for > Python 2.5. Let's vote. Besides what is you opinion on oldest numpy / > scipy supported version. I'd like to pitch the versions in latest Ubuntu LTS: 10.04: Pytho

Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Satrajit Ghosh
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Re: [Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Olivier Grisel
2011/12/8 Olivier Grisel : > > Vote for dropping Python 2.5 support: supported versions will be 2.6.x > and 2.7.x + 3.2+ (at some point). > [X] +1 -- Olivier http://twitter.com/ogrisel - http://github.com/ogrisel -- Clou

[Scikit-learn-general] [VOTE] Let's drop python 2.5 support

2011-12-08 Thread Olivier Grisel
Hi list, Gael suggested on a checkins comment on github to drop support for Python 2.5. Let's vote. Besides what is you opinion on oldest numpy / scipy supported version. Currently Fabian tests the releases on python 2.5, numpy 1.3.0 and scipy 0.7.2. Once we decide on the lowest supported version