Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-22 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: > Comments inline. > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:52 AM, anatoly techtonik > wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Gary Oberbrunner >> wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, anatoly techtonik >>> wrote: >>> I se

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-22 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jason Kenny wrote: > > I would hope that the concepts I talked about here are something we can > find common ground on and talk about defining some common name for. I know > this is a large e-mail, However I like very much some thoughts about what I > suggest at hi

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-22 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 6:57 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Bill Deegan > wrote: > >> I'm thinking that some combination of bugs in the bug tracking system + >> wiki to capture user stories, etc would be better than an email thread? >> >> Here: >> https://bitbuck

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-22 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Bill Deegan wrote: > I'm thinking that some combination of bugs in the bug tracking system + > wiki to capture user stories, etc would be better than an email thread? > > Here: > https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/browse/ToolchainRevamp > No BB wiki please. I

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-21 Thread Jason Kenny
object example with both system for use to discuss. Jason Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Gary Oberbrunner Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:13 PM To: Jason Kenny Cc: SCons developer list Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress You talk a lot about what I consider

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-21 Thread Bill Deegan
I'm thinking that some combination of bugs in the bug tracking system + wiki to capture user stories, etc would be better than an email thread? Here: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons/wiki/browse/ToolchainRevamp On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: > You talk a lot about w

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-21 Thread Dirk Baechle
Hi there, just wanted to say that I second Gary in all his points...especially the last one. ;) Dirk Am 21. Oktober 2015 02:59:02 MESZ, schrieb Gary Oberbrunner : >Comments inline. > >On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:52 AM, anatoly techtonik > >wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Gary Ober

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-20 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
You talk a lot about what I consider "policy": specific types of args that would be used to configure specific types of Tools, like compilers. This is all fine, but my goal is to build a framework where such policies can be applied, and then get into the specifics of platforms, cross-compilers, ver

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-20 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Comments inline. On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 12:52 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Gary Oberbrunner > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, anatoly techtonik >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I see the implementation, but I don't see any use cases. I know it >>> sounds t

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-20 Thread Jason Kenny
Hi Gary, >From looking at the below this seems to be in line with what is going on in >Parts. I had hoped that what I did here would be used /improved on in Scons. >That is the a goal of Parts.. to improve Scons. >From what you talk about below I think we are in general on the same page. I >k

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-19 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, anatoly techtonik > wrote: > >> >> I see the implementation, but I don't see any use cases. I know it sounds >> too formal, but I can't validate the assumptions we had towards the new >> toolchain withou

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-19 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > I see the implementation, but I don't see any use cases. I know it sounds > too formal, but I can't validate the assumptions we had towards the new > toolchain without a formal list. Do you have some notes or maybe BDD tests > for that

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Vasily wrote: > so I wanted to see if there was something on the SCons side of things I > can look at for inspiration. Well, the current message about missing Visual Studio on Windows is a great source of inspiration to me. =) -- anatoly t. __

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: > I'm just starting to get back into it. > If you'd like to take a look at the current state of things, check out > h...@bitbucket.org/garyo/scons-newtool and look in > src/engine/SCons/ToolchainDesign. > The next thing on my list for it is

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-16 Thread Vasily
; the current design. > > Jason > > *From:* Gary Oberbrunner > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2015 7:14 PM > *To:* SCons developer list > *Subject:* Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress > > I'm just starting to get back into it. > If you'd like t

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-13 Thread Jason Kenny
intent is with the current design. Jason From: Gary Oberbrunner Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 7:14 PM To: SCons developer list Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress I'm just starting to get back into it. If you'd like to take a look at the current state of things,

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-13 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
I'm just starting to get back into it. If you'd like to take a look at the current state of things, check out h...@bitbucket.org/garyo/scons-newtool and look in src/engine/SCons/ToolchainDesign. The next thing on my list for it is a nice generalized executable-finder (PATH, registry, env, hard-code

Re: [Scons-dev] SCons tools refactoring progress

2015-10-13 Thread Bill Deegan
Vasily, I think Gary was working on that. Work's ongoing. It's not imminent to be merged into main. Are you volunteering to help? ;) -Bill On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Vasily wrote: > Hi all! > > I recall there were some plans on refactoring how Tools work in SCons. > Are there any news o