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2007-01-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
Claudio Calvelli wrote: I'll add my £0.02 troll tax... Also, being USB powered and therefore limited to 500mA, it cannot always provide sufficient output power to cope with a bad line. Again, a router with a decent power supply would have no problem with that. Exactly - cheap shit, designe

Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread Kyle Gordon
Rand, Dollah or Pound? Kyle Alex Walker wrote: He was also the first African in space. Isn't he a *billionaire*? On 15 Jan 2007, at 12:54, Kyle Gordon wrote: Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu

Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread Alex Walker
He was also the first African in space. Isn't he a *billionaire*? On 15 Jan 2007, at 12:54, Kyle Gordon wrote: Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu is nice and shiny because the very nice man calle

Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread Kyle Gordon
And yes, as Kenny points out. Canonical provides commercial support for Ubuntu. So big business can run it and have assurances that if something goes wrong, they can point the Finger of Blame at someone and get it fixed. Kyle Kyle Gordon wrote: Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nic

Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread Kyle Gordon
Network cards are ten a penny now. If you ask nicely I (and others) may be able to bring some along to the meet for nowt ;-) Ubuntu is nice and shiny because the very nice man called Mark Shuttleworth is behind it. He's a millionaire or something like that, and likes to spend his money on bein

Re: even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Monday 15 January 2007 12:19, babaguy wrote: > p.s. last question: Have any of you ever been suspicious about who actually > owns Canonical? The packaging is so well designed and attractive, but where > do they get the money to pay people to put out a new version every six > months, when they ar

even moRe:[Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread babaguy
Boy oh Boy, Thanks you guys!I now have been forced to LOOK at (oops! too many capial letters! "I'm typing with capital letters! I'm typing with capital letters!" (think: 'running with scissors.') - - as I say, FORCED (by my sweetheart) to peruse the windows machine and the CD *is* a re-writer

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2007-01-15 Thread Claudio Calvelli
I'll add my £0.02 troll tax... William Anderson: > Praps you found a bad batch? I've yet to see a Speedtouch that *didn't* > work once you get your head round the firmware bit, and this is going > back years too when we had loads of USB modems at SmoothWall for > testing. Speedtouchen work, so

Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread William Anderson
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > William Anderson wrote: >> Gordon JC Pearce wrote: >>> babaguy wrote: >>> If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* like to be able to use my Linux to actually *do* something) help me with configuring a modem (either BT VOYAGER ADSL

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2007-01-15 Thread c . speirs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > babaguy wrote: > > > When I DO get a modem Router, I just hope getting the linux box to > > recognise it won't be too much of a hassle! > > If it's a router, it just presents a plain ordinary network connection. > Getting it working is then just a case of plugging

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2007-01-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
babaguy wrote: When I DO get a modem Router, I just hope getting the linux box to recognise it won't be too much of a hassle! If it's a router, it just presents a plain ordinary network connection. Getting it working is then just a case of plugging it in and allowing your PC to pick up a ne

Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
William Anderson wrote: Gordon JC Pearce wrote: babaguy wrote: If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* like to be able to use my Linux to actually *do* something) help me with configuring a modem (either BT VOYAGER ADSL or THOMSON Speed Touch 330) They're shit. Th

Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-14 Thread William Anderson
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > babaguy wrote: > >> If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* >> like to be able to use my Linux to actually *do* something) >> help me with configuring a modem (either BT VOYAGER ADSL or THOMSON >> Speed Touch 330) > > They're shit. Throw them

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2007-01-14 Thread babaguy
Thanks again, Alex - When I DO get a modem Router, I just hope getting the linux box to recognise it won't be too much of a hassle! Nighty-night! - Paul B. apologies if my other two emails came through, but I don't think they will because the from address in the emails was wrong

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2007-01-14 Thread Kyle Gordon
babaguy wrote: > Thanks Kyle, for the link and the heads-up! > There was so much information on the page that I haven't tried to follow what > it suggests - > > I think it requires that I download the firmware for the Speed Touch and burn > it to a CD and then run that CD on the Ubuntu box in or

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2007-01-14 Thread Alex Walker
apologies if my other two emails came through, but I don't think they will because the from address in the emails was wrong. make sure they're modem routers and not just routers. "Just routers" are boxes you plug your existing modem into. You don't want this. You want a router with the mode

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2007-01-14 Thread Alex Walker
oh aye, and make sure it's a MODEM/ROUTER and not just a router. Sorry for the double posting :) das_cheesecat On 15 Jan 2007, at 01:06, Alex Walker wrote: Gordon's right. You can pick up routers from around £30 and they'll save you a lot of hassle. Fight fair, Alex this on

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2007-01-14 Thread babaguy
Thanks, Alex When I get £30. I'll go and do what you suggest! Cheers! - Paul B. ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Scottish mail

moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-14 Thread Alex Walker
Gordon's right. You can pick up routers from around £30 and they'll save you a lot of hassle. Fight fair, Alex this one time, at band camp, gordonjcp wrote: babaguy wrote: > If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* > like to be able to use my Linux to

Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-14 Thread babaguy
Thanks Kyle, for the link and the heads-up! There was so much information on the page that I haven't tried to follow what it suggests - I think it requires that I download the firmware for the Speed Touch and burn it to a CD and then run that CD on the Ubuntu box in order to configure the

Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-14 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
babaguy wrote: If anyone else can PLEASE (I really MEAN these capitals, I *would* > like to be able to use my Linux to actually *do* something) > help me with configuring a modem (either BT VOYAGER ADSL or THOMSON > Speed Touch 330) They're shit. Throw them away. Seriously. They barely work

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2007-01-14 Thread Kyle Gordon
Hey Paul, Did you go through the document that I linked to? If so, where did it fail? What error messages did you encounter? It would be great if Ubuntu could provide the documentation that you're after, but we're often lucky if the device works at all. If manufacturers consistently fail to provi

Re: moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-14 Thread babaguy
Dear Kyle, Thank you for the concrete help/link, and the heads-up(!) on Linux abbreviations & initials (RTFM indeed!) - I have tried connecting the linux box using both the BT Voyager ADSL USB modem, *and* (no caps, see?) the Thomson Speed Touch 330 - but the Ubuntu box does not want to

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2007-01-14 Thread Kyle Gordon
Hi Paul, This is the first that you mention the Speedtouch 330. All previous opinions were based on the BT Voyager which you mention (of which I know of at least 4 different models). I never used my Speedtouch, I handed it away on Freecycle. I do recall setting one up about 6 years ago for a frie

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2007-01-14 Thread Gary Hendricks
I can't find any pages about this in Firefox or Gnome.. (nor do I see the initials "RTFM" (and what do they mean, anyway?) I would have thought that "RTFM" would be a topic or a term in the glossary, but so far I can't find it in UBUNTU.) RTFM stands for 'Read The F

moRe: [Scottish] Broadband Question...

2007-01-14 Thread babaguy
Hi Kyle ! (and all...)As I say in the first post, the modem which is on this (XP) machine is a BT Voyager ADSL modem - the other modem I just picked up thanks to FREESHARE! is a THOMSON "Speed Touch 330" which is the one I'll try to make work with the linux box.And the problem