RE: Cisco Workaround

2003-07-31 Thread Dozal, Tim
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/687/Directory/DirTAC.shtml Cisco TAC I'm sure could also help. The link above has all of the #'s world wide for 24/7 support. Tim -Original Message- From: Vachon, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Justin Pryzby
Not sure if this is understood or not. If someone wanted to hijack that ipi address, they would have to control a computer on the same network as that ip address. Otherwise packets they wanted to receive (to the hijacked address) would go to the wrong network. With TCP, that means they cannot ev

RE: Cisco Workaround (VPN PROBLEM)

2003-07-31 Thread Adam Overlin
I did state in my first mail that it was the pixes that were controlling the vpn/encryption, but I may not have been clear. So there it is again. :) Anyway, the 2 versions that we tried to upgrade to are: c820-k9osy6-mz.12.3-1a (24/8) and 12.2(15)T4/5 Currently we are running: 12.2 (sorry this

Re: Security/Firewall question

2003-07-31 Thread Morton B. Maser
I had a similar situation, but rather than using openBSD found Astero (http://www.astero.com). The firewall runs on a hardened Linux kernel, and you can add Kapersky AV is so desired for a nominal sum (or free, if you participate actively in Astero's power users forum.) The firewall can be downlo

Re: Finding hidden backdoors

2003-07-31 Thread Tim Greer
The backdoor could easily only accept connections from non local sources, or a specific source. It's probably easier to just run netstat, lsof, etc. from a clean. trusted media... or also boot into single user mode from a trusted kernel image. In fact, you should always have trusted kernel images

Re: Removing xupiter, spyware, malware

2003-07-31 Thread Morton B. Maser
Check out http://www.spywareinfo.com and http://www.wilders.org. SpuwareBlaster and SpywarewareGuard are a nice little pair of freeware utilities that will prevent them from installing in the first place, and - if already installed - can usually disable them. AdAware and SpyBot Search and Destroy

RE: Cisco Workaround (VPN PROBLEM)

2003-07-31 Thread jamesworld
Adam, Question: (surprised nobody asked) What is doing the VPN the routers or the PIX's? I'm sure we are all assuming that it's the PIX's -James Everyone else (who is involved and or want's to jump in)...update your subject line to clearly identify this new offshoot thread At 12:59

Re: Encrypted File Systems

2003-07-31 Thread Ricardo Oliva
Hi, I am just writing back to the list since I received a lot of the replys directly and wanted to make sure the information was shared. Unanimous opinions going for PGP disk (http://www.pgpi.org), so I guess that made it all easy for us. Thanks to all, -- Ricardo Oliva Labs Systems Administ

RE: Encrypted File Systems

2003-07-31 Thread Alcides Ricardo Martinez
In the particular thing, use the program of SecurStart, DriveCryp and DriveCrypt Bonus Pack. which have given me exelentes. you can get them to prove them from the one it Emulates. Alcides Developer of systems -Mensaje original- De: Birl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Jueves,

Finding hidden backdoors

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel B. Cid
I saw some people talking about rootkits that hidden process/ports. One think that i always do to see what ports are open is to run this perl script: use IO::Socket; for($i=0;$i<=6;$i++) { $server[$i] = IO::Socket::INET->new( Proto => 'tcp', LocalPort => $i,

Re[2]: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Terry
On Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 4:52 PM, Scott wrote: > This is totally up to the ISP itself. They may have had the block > previously allocated to something else that they did reverse DNS for. > They may also do reverse DNS for sanity sake. Lots of ISPs give a > location and other information as

Re[2]: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Terry
On Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 5:23 PM, Edward wrote: > IP Allocation has nothing to do with which IPs are being used. Understood. > This is the right thing (even if I'm not useing any of those IPs) because > for a set period of time those IPs are my 'property' they are not IPs that > are avail

RE: Cisco Workaround

2003-07-31 Thread Vachon, Scott
>Background: >We have a Cisco 827 router and a PIX 506e locally. Router being in front of >the PIX. We also have a co-location facility that we are connected via a >constant VPN tunnel. There we have a PIX 515e. The two pixes are what >control the VPN/encryption. >So we upgraded the router to

RE: Cisco Workaround

2003-07-31 Thread Paul Benedek
Hi Adam, This sounds like an interesting problem. Please could you send details of the cheat sheet and the versions of IOS that you upgraded to? My thoughts are that you may have created an access list that denied the protocols needed for your VPN tunnel, these being IKE and IPSEC. With access

Re: hidden processes

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel B. Cid
Its means that you have an rootkit installed and it is hidding some process. Its doesnt mean that your ps or netstat has been trojaned... Dbc >On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 09:18, Meritt James wrote: > As a couple of untried thoughts, is 'ps' itself corrupted? Will you get > the reight thing with full-p

Re: ping, traceroute, nampwin doesnt seem to work

2003-07-31 Thread chris
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think someone else mentioned this in their post as well. Some of these firewalls (zone alarm excluded) for windows have a tendency to 'alter' (?) winsock. And your TCP/IP settings. You may want to erase your tcp/ip settings in network configuration and just re

Re: What does this mean??? Event Log Scan

2003-07-31 Thread Birl
As it was written on Jul 31, thus Chance Orr spake unto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chance: Date: 31 Jul 2003 04:41:15 - Chance: From: Chance Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chance: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chance: Subject: What does this mean??? Event Log Scan Chance: Chance: Chance: Chance: 07/30/2003 23:

RE: Cisco Workaround

2003-07-31 Thread Adam Overlin
My network consultant is the one who has the cheat sheet now, but all that was on there was how to upgrade the IOS. No other commands or anything. If my memory serves me right, all that was on there was: copy tftp flash At that point it starts the flash process. When it's done, just reboot

Re: hidden processes

2003-07-31 Thread gminick
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:28:22PM -0400, Vlady wrote: > Hi, > One of my mashines is hacked and chkrootkit-0.40 tells me that I have 3 > proccess hidden from "ps". All of my system binaries looks like beeing clean. > Using "netstat" I can see that there is not a lisenning servise other than the >

Re: Hosting

2003-07-31 Thread pablo gietz
David I totally agree with your concept. ! Thanks to all who has responded.! David Gillett wrote: Outsourcing is a good strategy for businesses with lots of cash (...) to consider as an alternative to developing in-house expertise in areas that lie away from their "core competencies". I don't

RE: hidden processes

2003-07-31 Thread Johnson, Kevin
Hi- Is chkrootkit the reason you believe you box was hacked? If so, please check the chrootkit site at http://www.chkrootkit.org They have a mailing list I don't have access to right now but there was a bit of conversation about false positives. Kevin Johnson -Original Message- From

chkrootkit.org down? (was: hidden processes)

2003-07-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Subject about says it all. I can't get to chkrootkit.org to report the bug I found. Seems that Bind (with threads) under the latest 2.6.x Linux kernel makes the latest chkrootkit think that there are hidden processes. Something to do with named usin

RE: What does this mean??? Event Log Scan

2003-07-31 Thread DeGennaro, Gregory
It looks like part of the boot sequence. However, have you done pen-testing on your PC to see if your firewall is working and do you have any inspiring cracker kiddies at home? Regards, Greg DeGennaro Jr., CCNP Security Analyst -Original Message- From: Chance Orr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: To eliminate all netbios traffic without affecting "Server"service

2003-07-31 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any method to eliminate all the netbios traffic, and, at the same time, the > machine can still share resources and map drive? I've set my firewall to simply ignore traffic to ports 137 and 139. That seems to work with a Cisco PIX,

RE: source LAN port 137 dest 169.x

2003-07-31 Thread Escue, Robert S CONT (NETS)
This happens when a Windows 2000 machine cannot contact a DNS or DHCP server, Windows then assigns the 169.254 address if it cannot contact a DHCP server to renew the DHCP assigned address. -Original Message- From: stephen at unix dot za dot net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, Ju

RE: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread David Gillett
For a while it was common for some servers to reject connections from IP addresses that didn't resolve via reverse DNS(*). Since delegating reverse DNS along other than Class C boundaries is a real pain (not impossible, but all 3 ways to do it count as kludges...), an ISP that does it for an

RE: source LAN port 137 dest 169.x

2003-07-31 Thread David Gillett
The horse's mouth: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers > -Original Message- > From: stephen at unix dot za dot net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: July 30, 2003 23:54 > To: Jason Armstrong > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' > Subject: RE: source LAN port 137 dest 169.x > > > > cat

RE: Cisco Workaround

2003-07-31 Thread Adam Overlin
I just joined this list so I haven't seen the whole thread on this issue, thus my company's particular issue may have been discussed already, but I thought I would see if I could get some help anyway. Background: We have a Cisco 827 router and a PIX 506e locally. Router being in front of the PIX.

Re: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Adam Newhard
Do those unused ip addresses point anywhere??? i.e. if you type them into a browser, to they load up a web page or do they just not go anywhere??? I would imagine if they sold you a block of ip addresses, they have a script that'll generate all the dns entries for them and someone just screwed up

Re: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Edward Rustin
IP Allocation has nothing to do with which IPs are being used. What the IP allocation from ARIN/RIPE/APNIC/LANIC does is give you right to use those IP addresses which should (in theory) be routable to you (depending of course on things like who your internet provider is). To use your example. Sa

What does this mean??? Event Log Scan

2003-07-31 Thread Chance Orr
07/30/2003 23:49:02 612 Audit Policy Change Success audit Critical Security SYSTEM xx 07/30/2003 23:49:02 540 Successful Network Logon Success audit Critical Security ANONYMOUS LOGON xx 07/30/2003 23:49:24 680 Account Used for Logon Failure audit Critical Security SYSTEM

RE: Hosting

2003-07-31 Thread David Gillett
Outsourcing is a good strategy for businesses with lots of cash (...) to consider as an alternative to developing in-house expertise in areas that lie away from their "core competencies". I don't think it's a big stretch, though, to recognize that Security and Trust are, or should be, a bank's

Re: hidden processes

2003-07-31 Thread Birl
As it was written on Jul 30, thus Vlady spake unto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vlady: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:28:22 -0400 vlady: From: Vlady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> vlady: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vlady: Subject: hidden processes vlady: vlady: Hi, vlady: One of my mashines is hacked and chkrootkit-0.40 te

Re: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Scott M. Algatt
This is totally up to the ISP itself. They may have had the block previously allocated to something else that they did reverse DNS for. They may also do reverse DNS for sanity sake. Lots of ISPs give a location and other information as to where the IP is allocated. For instance, comcast has: 68

RE: IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Brad Hill - Quonic
It may depend on the kind of ISP you're dealing with. DSL/Cable providers seem to assigning generic DNS entries such as host01.client.com, host02.client.com, etc for every IP address in a block. I believe most ISP's offering leased lines will do the same however they will usually change the DNS ent

Unpatched IE security holes

2003-07-31 Thread Don Cassiano
There is a list of unpatched IE security holes http://www.pivx.com/larholm/unpatched/ There are currently 19 unpatched vulnerabilities. Be protected - use Mozilla! --- --

RE: To eliminate all netbios traffic without affecting "Server" service

2003-07-31 Thread David Gillett
> Is there any method to eliminate all the netbios traffic, > and, at the same time, the machine can still share resources > and map drive? "Windows File Sharing" uses NetBIOS as its transport. If you need it to work, there will be NetBIOS traffic. David Gillett > -Original Message

Re: hidden processes

2003-07-31 Thread Erik Vincent
You can try to use the lsof command and check between your ps output. You cant also check in your /proc filesystem. If you have another server with the same OS version, you can try to do an md5sum on your ps and netstat command. This will show you if those command have been modify by the hacker...

Re: Encrypted File Systems

2003-07-31 Thread Birl
As it was written on Jul 30, thus Ricardo Oliva spake unto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ricardo: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:29:24 -0700 Ricardo: From: Ricardo Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ricardo: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ricardo: Subject: Encrypted File Systems Ricardo: Ricardo: Hi, Ricardo: Ricardo: I am j

Re: Encrypted File Systems

2003-07-31 Thread Adam Newhard
I'm guessing you're looking into a pretty much automatic, hey i put in my password at login so don't even make it appear as though my files are encrypted. in terms of efs, a quick google search gives a lot of "windows efs gets thumbs up"...take 10 minutes to search the right thing and it's covered

Re: hidden processes

2003-07-31 Thread Meritt James
As a couple of untried thoughts, is 'ps' itself corrupted? Will you get the reight thing with full-path specification? And you may want to (briefly - it is a space hog) turn on process accounting and take a look at that. BTW: What does "hidden from ps" mean? Jim Vlady wrote: > > Hi, > One of

Re: Cisco Workaround

2003-07-31 Thread Jac
Oh, you guys are no fun at all. The key to a conspiracy theory is that the facts have to at least marginally support the theory and not prove it. Just enough evidence to make one paranoid but not make you want to hide in your fall out shelter. This is perfect for a conspiracy, Very large company

Re: Hosting

2003-07-31 Thread Meritt James
A bank is outsourcing? yeah. There may well be privacy and treasury guidance that restricts what they can do. I recommend checking. Jim pablo gietz wrote: > > Sr. > > I am the Security administrator of “that” Bank, and the "management" > wants to give hosting to some ISP (friend of them)

RE: source LAN port 137 dest 169.x

2003-07-31 Thread stephen at unix dot za dot net
cat /etc/services |grep :) On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Jason Armstrong wrote: > Also, check out this great site: > > http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/ip/ports0.htm > > It has a listing of all of the well-known ports. > > Port 137 is NETBIOS. > > Jason > > > > -Original Message-

IP address allocation

2003-07-31 Thread Terry
Hi, I've googled but haven't really come across anything that answers my questions. Is it common practice for ISPs to allocate a block of addresses to a customer and put in DNS records for ones that are unused? For example, xxx.8-xxx.15 is assigned to the customer. Customer uses xxx.9 for the r

Re: 2 NIC's on same network, possible?

2003-07-31 Thread Ansgar Wiechers
On 2003-07-29 David Gillett wrote: > Routing decisions are made by examining one possibility at a time; > once a match has been found, the rest of the routes need not be > examined. So the presence of multiple candidate matches doesn't > interfere with the process at all. [...] > The example of th

To eliminate all netbios traffic without affecting "Server" service

2003-07-31 Thread Otto . Lee
Hi all, In Control Panel->Network->Bindings tab->Select "all services", after disabling "NetBIOS Interface" service, netbios traffic still exists after running some software. The netbios traffic is observed by the Microsoft Network Monitor. I can only eliminate all the netbios traffic by disabl

RE: ping, traceroute, nampwin doesnt seem to work

2003-07-31 Thread Stuart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Where are you trying to ping? I used sygate firewall once, even when it was disabled I found that it still blocked and filtered packets :/ I also had mcafee antivirus and I found that after installing a protocol or installing a new NIC the "inbu

Re: Bug in chkrootkit ?

2003-07-31 Thread Juraj Ziegler
> i'm not sure, but i believe that a lkm is clever enough (ie. very good > programmed), it can really 'wipe' a file/process/??? from the system, so > it's hard sometimes to diagnose your server It really can. I never did it (too lazy :), but the concept of doing it is rather simple. You create a k