NOTE: All opinions are my own and in no way reflect the views of my
employer.

Actually, the capabilities you describe as coming in the next 4
or 5 years for IDS are here or coming in the next year for central
monitoring consoles. By implementing it in a sensor-neutral system
you can implement a solution that performs the confidence evaluation
using detection tools that are best-of-breed (as cliche as that line
is) for their specific technique- protocol analysis, traffic analysis
or straight signature matching.

Toby

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus J. Ranum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:01 PM
> To: Mark Crosbie; Carr, Aaron [CNTUS]
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: IDS that retaliates.
> 
> 
> Mark Crosbie wrote:
> >What good does retaliation really get you though (apart from a whole
> >load of legal headache)? Wouldn't "recovery" be a better goal to aim
> >for?
> 
> We've often gotten requests for "firewall reconfiguration" or 
> other types
> of "reaction" - what's interesting to me is that all these requests:
>          - reaction
>          - retaliation
>          - repair
> will be limited by the degree of certainty the IDS is able to 
> achieve. If
> you've got a 100% accurate diagnosis of the attack and its source then
> you _might_ be able to take some steps. If it's not 100% accurate then
> things start to go rapidly downhill. :)  I think that in the 
> next 4 or 5 years
> we'll see IDS getting close to being able to do such things 
> but before we
> get there, you'll see:
>          - IDS correlation of significance: mapping events 
> against types of
>          attacks against types of targets and re-prioritizing their 
> significance.
>          - IDS indication of confidence level: IDS will start 
> to associate a
>          confidence value with an alert instead of just a 
> severity. This is an
>          "oh, DUH!" that a lot of us security guys have had 
> recently: the
>          severity of the problem is _not_ the same as the 
> IDS' confidence
>          of its diagnosis.
>          - Establishment of mapping between significance 
> (operationally set)
>          of targets versus reactions.
> 
> Heck, I'd like my system not to retaliate or reconfigure but 
> to fix itself. :)
> 
> ALERT: SYSALERT, Severity=10, Confidence=10 - your system was
> vulnerable to attacks that are being launched against it. OpenBSD
> has automatically been installed replacing the copy of Linux that was
> on it...
> 
> :)
> 
> mjr.
> 

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