RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-07 Thread Tim Donahue
> I, personally, have a tendency to SSH home during class > to read up on email and such whenever it gets a little > boring. There's also times when I 'su' while logged in > remotely from school. I know I don't want anyone getting my > root passwords. > You could use sudo for most things tha

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-06 Thread dave
IL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 15:19 >> To: Kamran Muzaffer; Gedi; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Unwanted programs on Win2K >> >> Kamran Muzaffer wrote: >> > Hi Gedi, >> > >> > I tried to _crack_ a .SAM file loca

re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-06 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
>> Question: How can someone bypass restrictions in > Win2k >> to install software when he doesn?t have proper >> privileges? > > A little paranoia is a good thing, but since you're a > user, it really isn't your concern. After all, if > your company has policies against such things as users > in

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-06 Thread James Kelly
your correct. Jim -Original Message- From: H C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K Gedi, For the sake of accuracy: > However, the easiest is to crack the .SAM file. "Easiest" is r

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Tim Donahue
I recommend the book Hacking Windows 2000 Exposed (ISBN 0072192623) it is an book that covers many vunerabilites on a Windows 2000 based computer. Tim Donahue > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:38 PM > To: [EM

Re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Gedi
You can never fully secure a machine locally unless you remove all the drives, pad lock it up, put it in a sealed room with motion sensors in there. Cracking the SAM file will only give you passwords locally. That is they will give you full access to the machine but not the network. This topic is

Re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Pez Mohr
Kamran Muzaffer wrote: > Hi Gedi, > > I tried to _crack_ a .SAM file located in c:\WINNT\repair with LC4, > but it only shows Administrator and guest accounts and those are not > the current passwords either. I think windows saves the initial copy > of the password database there. That's the very r

Re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Meritt James
Wait until a few in senior management get arrested. ;-) (note: Check appendix of industrial espionage act) Jim Chris Berry wrote: > > >From: Harris Samuel W PORT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I disagree. Security is everybody's problem. The user can be a big > >help in notifying the IT department of

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Simon Taplin
ind of job that nobody notices if you're doing it well. People only take notice of their systems when they're not working. -Original Message- From: Mike Heitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 February 2003 02:57 To: Harris Samuel W PORT; H C; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: U

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Tim V - DZ
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Re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Meritt James
ogin" banner when they log into Unix boxes? Or know the correct reporting procedures for suspected intrusions? Or even the signs? > -Original Message- > From: H C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread H C
Gedi, For the sake of accuracy: > However, the easiest is to crack the .SAM file. "Easiest" is relative. I'd go w/ the Linux bootdisk and utility to change the password. Also, there is no such thing as a ".SAM" file...it's just "SAM". > If your admins are usless you may be lucky and find

Re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Kamran Muzaffer
*hole* :) -Regards, -=Kamran - Original Message - From: "Gedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K Hi Ahaly There are many ways to do get the result you want. However, the easiest is t

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Chris Berry
From: Harris Samuel W PORT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I disagree. Security is everybody's problem. The user can be a big help in notifying the IT department of things going on that might have escaped their eyes. The more eyes, the better. I agree, regular users are some of my best agents in making sure

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-05 Thread Mike Heitz
PORT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue 2/4/2003 3:54 PM To: 'H C'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K I disagree. Security is everybody's problem. The user can be a big help in no

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-04 Thread Simon Taplin
Hello Ahaly As an admin working in a uni enviroment, I have seen this before. It depends on what the admins have set up. Some accounts may be Part of the Power Users group which gives them rights to install for that user only. Your's might be part of the more restricted Users group. Also, some pr

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-04 Thread Chris Berry
From: Gedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are many ways to do get the result you want. However, the easiest is to crack the .SAM file. The .SAM file is locked under operating running conditions. If your admins are usless you may be lucky and find a backup copy in the repair folder (c:\WINNT\repair) Ha

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-04 Thread Harris Samuel W PORT
pyard Portsmouth , NH 03801 (207) 438-4779 -Original Message- From: H C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: Unwanted programs on Win2K > Question: How can someone bypass restrictions in Win2k > to install software when

RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-04 Thread Gedi
Gedi -Original Message- From: Tim Donahue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 19:09 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Unwanted programs on Win2K I recommend the book Hacking Windows 2000 Exposed (ISBN 0072192623) it is an book that covers man

re: Unwanted programs on Win2K

2003-02-04 Thread H C
> Question: How can someone bypass restrictions in Win2k > to install software when he doesn?t have proper > privileges? Privilege escalation is pretty trivial these days...assuming that the user doesn't already have local admin privileges on the system. Not too long ago, a worm used the privil