Re: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Meritt James
And you thought the UUENCODE bug was limited to URL hacks? Nah. Warning: Some systems will let you SET passwords using characters which are unrecognized by the system to gain access, resulting in you locking yourself out. It pays to know field separators, for instance. Things like " " (the

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Berry
From: Meidinger Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know you don't want to hear this, but remember that MS Windows NT or 2000 running in hybrid mode uses an NTLM hash to represent the password. This hash represents only 7 characters, meaning that if you have a 21 character password, it is really 3 consecut

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread dave kleiman
lways takes place in the framework of high expectation." Jack Kinder -Original Message- From: Chris Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 16:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords >From: Meidinger Chris <

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Berry
From: "dave kleiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not quite; If you pass the 14 character margin, No LM hash will be stored of the password. 14 characters is its limit, so if you enforce a policy of 15 or greater you do not have to worry about it. That's true, but I wouldn't rely on that. It's pretty easy

Re: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Mr Babak Memari
-Original Message- From: Optrics Engineering - Shaun Sturby, MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:20 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 'Edmunds, Ron' Subject: RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords Hello Ron, This depends on the co

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Meidinger Chris
I know you don't want to hear this, but remember that MS Windows NT or 2000 running in hybrid mode uses an NTLM hash to represent the password. This hash represents only 7 characters, meaning that if you have a 21 character password, it is really 3 consecutive 7 character passwords. Thus your 21 ch

Re: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Greer
One that throws people off for file names and directory names, especially in certain platforms, is ALT+255. :-) -- Regards, Tim Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server administration, security, programming, consulting. - Original Message - From: "Birl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-11 Thread Jay Woody
Here is a listing of the alt keys. I think there are hundreds out there just like this. Maybe this will give you some of the keys, you are looking for. http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/maths/altchrc.htm JayW >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/03 12:25PM >>> Although I very much value the 4 responses I hav

Re: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-09 Thread Birl
Although I very much value the 4 responses I have received so far, I think I should clarify my original question better: Are there any other keys (or combination thereof) besides, CTRL or ALT, that can be used? Another question, it is possible to use CTRL + ALT +at the same time? Where, obv

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-08 Thread Optrics Engineering - Shaun Sturby, MCSE
-Original Message- From: Optrics Engineering - Shaun Sturby, MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:20 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 'Edmunds, Ron' Subject: RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords Hello Ron, This depends on the co

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-08 Thread dave kleiman
tmedic.net -Original Message- From: Birl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 13:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Using non-printable characters in passwords Although I very much value the 4 responses I have received so far, I think I should clarify my original

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-08 Thread Manuel Lanctot
Here's a list of the ALT+XXX possible characters: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=649957 The list also gives the Mac and HTML ways to do these chars. Manuel Lanctot Novalis, Bayard Press > -Message d'origine- > De : Birl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoye : 6 aout, 2003 14:41 >

RE: Using non-printable characters in passwords

2003-08-07 Thread Optrics Engineering - Shaun Sturby, MCSE
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