Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Berin, let's go with just xml-security... -- dims On 6/25/06, Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK guys, quick poll - is anyone going to get upset if I put forwad two resolutions to the board, one as original which is preferred and one as just xml-security as the fallback? I should

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-25 Thread Berin Lautenbach
OK guys, quick poll - is anyone going to get upset if I put forwad two resolutions to the board, one as original which is preferred and one as just xml-security as the fallback? I should have realised that creating a broad project might get sticky - my apologies to all. I'm still going to push fo

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-25 Thread Greg Stein
I'd suggest simply moving XML-Security to a TLP and not worry about it needing to have a broader role. There is no problem with a "small" TLP. I think any sort of "security federation" would be handled similarly to the site-dev mailing list and its care/feeding of www.apache.org. (and I might eve

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-22 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Any given problem at Apache can be solved at least a dozen different > ways, satisfying different sets of consumers, and reaching independent > levels of perfections in the minds of their own designers. We should > not fear internal competition. > > A federation is sim

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:01 AM, Berin Lautenbach wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: It sounds like a decent idea for a federation, but a terrible idea for a project. Projects need to be responsible for a product or they just end up in the weeds. A federation of projects can simply maintain a gene

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-22 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > It sounds like a decent idea for a federation, but a terrible idea > for a project. Projects need to be responsible for a product or they > just end up in the weeds. A federation of projects can simply maintain > a general mailing list and website. It would be responsib

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
It sounds like a decent idea for a federation, but a terrible idea for a project. Projects need to be responsible for a product or they just end up in the weeds. A federation of projects can simply maintain a general mailing list and website. Roy

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-21 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Sanjiva, >From the perspective of WS and the ws-* projects you mention, no change at all, unless you want to link back and reference to the activities in Santuario. On the other hand, one thing the security project would want to do would be to create a single point where people can come to to get

Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario

2006-06-21 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Berin, there security stuff happening in WS land as well: we're implementing WS-Security, WS-Secure Conversation, WS-Trust and WS-Security Policy .. in both Java and C (and thru the latter for PHP etc.). Once those are done then we can do InfoCard and other stuff that's coming down the pipe (like W