RE: [proposal] Doco

2003-10-29 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
Both Outlook and Outlook Express do support it. Vincenzo -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mercoledi 29 ottobre 2003 0.01 To: James Developers List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [proposal] Doco

[PATCH] RemoteDelivery multiple delay times

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Hilmer
Changes from previous patch: i) All accept methods in SpoolRepository and implementing classes now returns a Mail instance instead of the key (should that have been MailImpl instances ?) ii) JamesSpoolManager changed as it calls one of the accept method mentioned above. iii) For performance

RE: Build process in maven?

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Really the biggest hurdle is a stable Avalon release. :) I would use the latest release packages from Avalon, and once we get merged, I think it makes sense for Stephen to add configuration files for a James package using Merlin as well as our Phoenix packaging. --- Noel

Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Really the biggest hurdle is a stable Avalon release. :) I would use the latest release packages from Avalon, and once we get merged, I think it makes sense for Stephen to add configuration files for a James package using Merlin as well as our Phoenix packaging. So to just

Re: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
Serge Knystautas wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Really the biggest hurdle is a stable Avalon release. :) I would use the latest release packages from Avalon, and once we get merged, I think it makes sense for Stephen to add configuration files for a James package using Merlin as well as our

[VOTE] Steve Brewin

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I nominate Steve Brewin as a James Committer. Steve contributed quite a bit of work on Fetchmail, provided the original impetus behind the use of XML entities to simplify out configuration file(s), has other pending contributions (e.g., BSF integration), helps out on the user list, has been easy

[VOTE] Soren Hilmer for Committer

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I nominate Soren Hilmer as a James Committer. Soren has contributed several significant changes (Mail Attribiutes and RemoteDelivery scheduling) , has been easy to collaborate with, and generally appears to know his stuff. I'll start off with a +1. --- Noel

Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Danny Angus
2. Discuss and resolve the mailet API changes. I propose we abandon many of the changes made to the HEAD, and adopt only those changes made to the branch as well. The repository access and database access is likely to be superceded by JNDI. I propose that we keep whatever additional

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Everything from Avalon on which James is dependent has gone though an official release. Your list (Freudian slip? :-)) is missing Phoenix, although I believe that there is a release later than we are using. I assume that all of the new ones are currently in our MAIN branch? James is

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
So to just get to a merged 3.0 release, we could do the following Are you proposing that what is currently v2.2.0 test builds be released as v3? 1. Move to latest release packages from Avalon. I think that we already have them in the MAIN branch. If not, we should. Steve is running James

RE: [VOTE] Steve Brewin

2003-10-29 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
+1 also from me! Vincenzo -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mercoledi 29 ottobre 2003 17.35 To: James-Dev Mailing List Subject: [VOTE] Steve Brewin I nominate Steve Brewin as a James Committer. Steve contributed quite a bit of work on

RE: [VOTE] Soren Hilmer for Committer

2003-10-29 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
+1 also from me! Vincenzo -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: mercoledi 29 ottobre 2003 17.35 To: James-Dev Mailing List Subject: [VOTE] Soren Hilmer for Committer I nominate Soren Hilmer as a James Committer. Soren has contributed

Re: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: So to just get to a merged 3.0 release, we could do the following Are you proposing that what is currently v2.2.0 test builds be released as v3? Err, no... I mean merge from a codebase perspective, not overwrite. Feature-wise, I don't believe there is much in 3.0 that isn't

Re: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
Serge Knystautas wrote: I think that will be messy since there has been so much changes on each, but I don't have a better suggestion. grunt grunt grunt. This really could expose our Archiles heel though, which is a lack of adequate testing to make sure the merged version works well. Have

RE: [PATCH] RemoteDelivery multiple delay times

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I think it causes more trouble then benefit if it delays a mail for not less then 5 days _without_ notifying the sender after 24 hours, saying that I am James, your email is delayed, but I am still trying to deliver. I understand your thought about DSN (something still pending to be done), but

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
So to just get to a merged 3.0 release, we could do the following Are you proposing that what is currently v2.2.0 test builds be released as v3? Err, no... I mean merge from a codebase perspective, not overwrite. Feature-wise, I don't believe there is much in 3.0 that isn't in 2.2. IMAP.

Re: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: As for formal testing, we still don't have much. Bench and live testing, basically. For example, when I get home, I'll test Soren's patch by setting up a schedule, and sending mail to a dead gateway. I don't know what Avalon has done in terms of facilitating component

Re: [PATCH] RemoteDelivery multiple delay times

2003-10-29 Thread Hontvari Jozsef
I am not against this patch, actually this was one of the most important missing features for me. The current configuration is better in one (and only one) issue, it does provide feedback after about a day to the sender. I have no idea about the implementation of DSN, but sending bounces to a

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
2. Do an api/impl split (which will make me happy) Where do you see that we don't? I'm not saying that there aren't such cases, but I'm curious as to what you see as concerns. 3. Use the AbstractMerlinTestCase to deploy james in a container with services accessible to your unit test - you

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Excalibur IO is depricated in favour of Commons IO. However, the cornerstone-store package used a number of IO utilities not available within the commons-io package So we need commons-io, plus the additional set of classes necessary to support Cornerstone Store, and you've moved the latter

Re: [PATCH] RemoteDelivery multiple delay times

2003-10-29 Thread Hontvari Jozsef
(on bounces I also mean failed attempts, before the configured retry attemps ended, this event could be used for such a notification) - Original Message - From: Hontvari Jozsef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:43 PM

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Can you fill me in on BSF? I'm not Steve, but ... http://jakarta.apache.org/bsf/ Also: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] .orgmsgNo=9147 That has a BSF matcher and a BSF mailet written by Steve. We want to get them into v3. In terms of what I'm proposing, think of

RE: [PATCH] RemoteDelivery multiple delay times

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I am not against this patch, actually this was one of the most important missing features for me. The current configuration is better in one (and only one) issue, it does provide feedback after about a day to the sender. Actually, the feedback is when it fails. If you want total failure, you

[PATCH] GenericListServ, reversePath can be specified

2003-10-29 Thread Hontvari Jozsef
This is a small patch which makes possible to specify a reversePath in descendant classes. Until now postmaster was used always and the bounces got on my nerves :) It is against the 2.1 branch. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PATCH] GenericListServ, reversePath can be specified

2003-10-29 Thread Hontvari Jozsef
Now again in zip. - Original Message - From: Hontvari Jozsef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: [PATCH] GenericListServ, reversePath can be specified This is a small patch which makes possible to specify a

Unsure/Unable to Deploy Custom Mailets

2003-10-29 Thread Kenny Smith
Hi all, I'm still setting up my new server and I'm trying to deploy a custom mailet to it, but running into problems. I following the directions here: http://james.apache.org/custom_mailet_2_1.html I copied my jar into /usr/local/james-server/lib and executed: cd /usr/local/james-server cp

Re: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Can you fill me in on BSF? I'm not Steve, but ... http://jakarta.apache.org/bsf/ Also: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=9147 That has a BSF matcher and a BSF mailet written by Steve. We want to get them into v3. Thanks - penny has

RE: Merging plan (was Build process in maven?)

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
But something I'm still not clear on. Under a unit test the BSF mailet would be declared under the James configuration. I was just using those matchers as examples. For testing, I think you want to have similar code available within Merlin, itself, able to access whatever needs testing.

RE: Unsure/Unable to Deploy Custom Mailets

2003-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
If you don't add your jar to build.xml, it won't be included. Look around line 390. Please feel free to submit a patch for the directions. Also, that page will be changed with the next release of James. --- Noel - To