Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-09 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Feb 8, 2008 10:33 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Danny Angus ha scritto: Get it now? No. What is the problem in redeploying all the processors every time you need to redeploy one of them? You will have to stop the spoolmanager thread anyway,

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Feb 8, 2008 10:33 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danny Angus ha scritto: > > On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure I understand the advantages of the redeploy of a single > >> processor. > > > > Processors are bigger than colle

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-08 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Danny Angus ha scritto: On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure I understand the advantages of the redeploy of a single processor. Processors are bigger than collections of mailet/matchers, they can invoke one another and can be implemented in differen

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-08 Thread Danny Angus
On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure I understand the advantages of the redeploy of a single > processor. Processors are bigger than collections of mailet/matchers, they can invoke one another and can be implemented in different ways, e.g. jsieve. Th

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: stefano is right that given our current COP, SpoolManager would have to be redeployed noel and danny are right that for reployment to work elegantly, the level of granularity should be the processor I'm not sure I understand the advantages of the redeploy of a

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Feb 5, 2008 1:41 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danny Angus ha scritto: > > I agree with noel, processors should be the deployable application > > I'm not sure I understand yours and Noel idea. Noel's message seems to > say that I proposed to redeploy single mailets, instead I

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann ha scritto: On Feb 5, 2008 5:56 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and discard the legacy Spring code? :-) LOL. You are trolling. Avalon is a legacy. Spring is widely used, easy to handle, well documented and in active development. There is no reason why spring-, p

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Danny Angus ha scritto: I agree with noel, processors should be the deployable application I'm not sure I understand yours and Noel idea. Noel's message seems to say that I proposed to redeploy single mailets, instead I proposed to redeploy the spoolmanager. Being able to undeploy and redep

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Danny Angus
I agree with noel, processors should be the deployable application On 2/5/08, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefano Bagnara wrote: > > > The really cool thing would be to have each top level component deployable > > as separate osgi bundle, so to be able to undeploy the spool manag

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Feb 5, 2008 9:01 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/5/08, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > > > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). > > > > Yes, bu

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Feb 5, 2008 5:56 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). > > Yes, but doing so seems backwards. Why? To me this seems very straightforwar

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 2/5/08, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). > > Yes, but doing so seems backwards. It appears that SpringSource is > conceding that OSGi

RE: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-04 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: > The really cool thing would be to have each top level component deployable > as separate osgi bundle, so to be able to undeploy the spool manager, > alter mailet configuration, deploy it back (and other similar things). Mailet configuration seems the wrong place. Pipelin

RE: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-04 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). Yes, but doing so seems backwards. It appears that SpringSource is conceding that OSGi is to Spring as JSF is to Struts, and that Spring will go the w

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-03 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Feb 3, 2008 8:30 PM, Bernd Fondermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernd Fondermann wrote: > Spring-osgi (opposed to Spring in a web-container) is not yet ready to > deal with custom ApplicationContexts (yet). This results in the fact I > see no easy way currently to boot our components. > >

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-03 Thread Bernd Fondermann
Bernd Fondermann wrote: Hi, with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). I'd like to try and make the spring deployment OSGi-deployable this way. In a first step, this would only mean 'deployabl

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-02 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Feb 2, 2008 8:24 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernd Fondermann ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). > > > > I'd like to try and make the s

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-02-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Bernd Fondermann ha scritto: Hi, with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). I'd like to try and make the spring deployment OSGi-deployable this way. In a first step, this would only mean 'depl

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-01-31 Thread Danny Angus
On Jan 31, 2008 4:13 AM, Bernd Fondermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). > > I'd like to try and make the spring deployment OSGi-deployable this way

Re: James OSGi Bundle

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Jan 31, 2008 4:13 AM, Bernd Fondermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be > reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). > > I'd like to try and make the spring deployment OSGi-deployable this way

James OSGi Bundle

2008-01-30 Thread Bernd Fondermann
Hi, with the release of the OSGi extension to Spring[1], it seems to be reasonably easy to turn any spring app into an OSGi deployment ('bundle'). I'd like to try and make the spring deployment OSGi-deployable this way. In a first step, this would only mean 'deployable'. I would defer exposi