On 9/15/06, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> [...]
> There is some truth in this. But Eclipse is driven by companies, it is
> like a software company.
> We are not this way. That does not mean we aren't successfull, but
> this is not an objective opinion either ;-) I am not willing to follow
> strict release cycles. But it would be good to have a common
> perspective. That's what is still evolving from the mailing list
> discussion. It is not simply a thing of voting.
I really agree on the whole paragrapg but the last sentence: I think
that it is ok to use the vote as a pragmatic way to define the limits of
our discussions.
+1, fully.
What I wanted to emphasize is: It's not only a matter of proposing and
voting _alone_.
proposal = bone
discussion = flesh
vote = skin
well, then comes development, of course...
_all_ of those taking part in the discussions are required to discuss
+ technical
+ short and on the point
+ on-topic or fork new thread
+ be consent driven
if everyone remembers those points before hitting "send", you will
see, discussion outcome will dramatically improve.
there is _so_ much noise, repetition and re-iteration going on
currently, I have trouble following.
I bet others have the same problems, too.
BTW, that also applies to the number of proposals that get started
virtually in parallel. I have noticed all, I have read some, I
understood 1 or 2, I will try to answer all of them. My apologies for
not having more time for them. Really, there is so much good stuff you
put out, I only wish I had more time. If this is causing frustration
on some part: it is not ingorance, it is the missing time.
I don't like to discuss ages without a conclusion when
I know we could have done both of our different ideas if we simply
discussed less and to end up without anything done. I think I'm able to
work in team but the team works if we agree we have advantages in
working together.
OK, agreed, help us to keep disussions short. ;-)
You brought us the biggest new feature in James: Unit tests.
I think that your contribution, in term of code, is what is making me
more happy to be still in James and not working on my own local branch.
Wait for the stuff I am going to contribute in future! ;-)
I, for my part, like Postage much more than the unit tests. But
obviously opinions vary.
<snip/>
instead I preferred to work on the commons-net
change and we have been all happy with it.
that was cool, couldn't have done that myself so quickly, many thanks again.
Bernd
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