Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 12.1.2014 10:12, Sameer Verma wrote: > Has anyone created the wiki page as yet? Just created the wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team/Quest_for_Data Please help me expand it as you gather feedback from other deployments. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Martin Dluhos wrote: > On

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Agreed. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender > wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > >>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Martin Dluhos wrot

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Walter Bender > wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Martin Dluhos wrote: On 7.1.2014 01:49, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-12 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Just to add my $.02, I agree with Walter and Claudia's approach in this paper. Making the specifics of learning visible to teachers and students, and doing the development from this perspective, I think is the best way to go. Thanks. Gerald On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Walter Bender wrote: >

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 10.1.2014 11:55, Anish Mangal wrote: > Sorry for being late to the party. Clearly the "quest for data" is a commonly > shared one, with many different approaches, questions, and reporting/results. > > One of the already mentioned solutions is the sugar-stats package, originally > developed by A

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 7.1.2014 01:49, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Martin Dluhos wrote: >> For visualization, I have explored using LibreOffice and SOFA, but neither of >> those were flexible to allow for customization of the output beyond some a >> few >> rudimentary options, so I started

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-09 Thread Anish Mangal
Sorry for being late to the party. Clearly the "quest for data" is a commonly shared one, with many different approaches, questions, and reporting/results. One of the already mentioned solutions is the sugar-stats package, originally developed by Aleksey, which have now been part of dextrose-sugar

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Walter Bender wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Martin Dluhos wrote: >>> On 4.1.2014 10:44, Sameer Verma wrote: >>> True. Activities do not report end times, or whether the frequency count is

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-06 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Martin Dluhos wrote: >> On 3.1.2014 04:09, Sameer Verma wrote: >>> Happy new year! May 2014 bring good deeds and cheer :-) >>> >>> Here's a blog post on the different approaches (that I know of) to data >>> ga

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-06 Thread Martin Dluhos
On 4.1.2014 10:44, Sameer Verma wrote: > True. Activities do not report end times, or whether the frequency > count is for the number of times a "new" activity was started, or if > it was simply a resumption of the previous instance. Walter had > indicated that thre is some movement in this direct

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Metrics can direct action. > > Unfortunately, in the absence of meaningful metrics, the meaningless > metrics will also direct action. > True. In fact, the reliability of the whole thing is dependent on the reliability of the generated data.

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Martin Abente wrote: > Hello Sameer, > > I totally agree we should join efforts for a visualization solution, but, > personally, my main concern is still a basic one: what are the important > questions we should be asking? And how can we answer these questions > re