Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-18 Thread David Farning
On Saturday, August 17, 2013, Adam Holt wrote: On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Braddock bradd...@braddock.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'bradd...@braddock.com'); wrote: From: David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dfarn...@activitycentral.com'); We have

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-18 Thread Adam Holt
No doubt. I was joking around and accidentally hit Send. Now the NSA and Israel's Re-education Teams are both onto me, hah (as far as I know Compulab's a top-notch Israeli company, and we will be using their servers in Haiti, even if many of us question their lack of USB3 and SATA..a little

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-17 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 07:40 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, My point about the UPS is that an off-grid setup doesn't need one which somewhat offsets the additional cost of supporting a hard drive. Yea the cost savings can go towards a proper 12v deep cycle battery. Currently the two

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-17 Thread Adam Holt
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 07:40 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: By the way, the need for the school server is closer to 50 hours per week than 24/7. Normally it needs to be booted only during the hours when children are in school.

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-17 Thread Anish Mangal
On Aug 17, 2013 5:02 AM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 07:40 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: By the way, the need for the school server is closer to 50 hours per week than 24/7. Normally it needs to be

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-17 Thread Anish Mangal
Perhaps another avenue to explore could be SSHD's (a hybrid of SSDs and HDD's). They would cost significantly less than an SSD (a 500GB SSHD retails $80), yet meager on power consumption about 2.5-3W better than an HDD, 1-1.5W worse than an SSD. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Anish Mangal

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-17 Thread Adam Holt
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com We have just received confirmation that compulab won't be releasing a SATA connector with the utilite. ( http://utilite-computer.com/web/home ) Instread they will offer

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Parker
On 17/08/13 16:21, Jerry Vonau wrote: Think the issue is mainly about off-grid systems, those are usually 12v. What would be neat is if there was a power supply that you could replace in your standard PC that used 12v as the supply voltage. Anybody know of a manufacture that supplies one? I'd

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-16 Thread Braddock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com We have just received confirmation that compulab won't be releasing a SATA connector with the utilite. ( http://utilite-computer.com/web/home ) Instread they will offer a mSATA connection. This is

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-16 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, What is the disk capacity required by internet-in-a-box? The purpose of the server is to deliver the information not available from the internet. The cost of a UPS which is required for a system on the grid is $80-100. In my experience, there is need for one school server at a school

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-16 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 05:49 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, What is the disk capacity required by internet-in-a-box? 600-700 gigs The purpose of the server is to deliver the information not available from the internet. Yup, or when your offline. The cost of a UPS which is required

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21

2013-08-16 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, My point about the UPS is that an off-grid setup doesn't need one which somewhat offsets the additional cost of supporting a hard drive. Currently the two schools in Lesotho are using MSI Nettop as school servers. In the context of charging 30-100 XOs, the additional power consumed by the