Hello,
> There is also a James based list server from Japan that has been offered, it
> seems to the project. I don't know if Mark has looked at it. One problem
> is that the docs are all in Japanese, and no one seems to know how it
> compares, or what it offers.
Yes, i proposed the MLMS (mail
> I've been skimming through the listserv processors code (AvalonListserv,
> JDBCListserv, & CommandListservProcessor)
Completely different beasts. AvalonListserv & Co are the old list server.
CommandListserv represents a new list server. JDBCListserv is a somewhat
misleading orphan, as far as I
> You're right, I missed the "james-is-your-agent" model; instead, I was
> thinking of the JavaMail model where I get a status code upon each send.
You may have also missed the fact that messages inserted into the spool go
through the pipeline, and can still be processed by other mailets.
If your
> Nothing shows up in the logs in terms of exceptions. The only thing I
> do see is a stop() from james when the disconnect happens, but I
> haven't been able to figure out what is generating it.
There is only one way to get a stop() in the log. POP3Handler.parseCommand
has to return false. The
> Can I assume that in a mailet lifecycle, service() and destroy()
> are mutually exclusive?
I believe that the answer is no. There is no check in
JamesSpoolManager.dispose to ensure that all processors are quiescent before
disposing of them. And there is no support in LinearProcessor.dispose()
Danny wrote:
> No I was merely observing that AUTH seems designed to identify people
> who may be permitted, not machines.
Actually, I was re-reading http://james.apache.org/rfclist/smtp/rfc2554.txt.
It can be used to authenticate one SMTP server to another. Then the sending
server can use:
M
> What would you recommend doing to test the cause of the connection
> close?
As I mentioned in another reply, check both the Netscape and James logs.
> I'm telnetting from windows XP straight to port 110, its either
> James or the telnet client that is closing the connection.
I would try from b
Can I assume that in a mailet lifecycle, service() and destroy() are
mutually exclusive?
In other words, that destroy() will never be called while service() is
being run, and if I'm in destroy() or afterwards, service won't be called.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
You're right, I missed the "james-is-your-agent" model; instead, I was
thinking of the JavaMail model where I get a status code upon each send.
With James, I'll just have to be smarter about interpreting bounce
messages (ie, VERP). I was hoping for some sort of direct notification
mechanism (Ob
Nothing shows up in the logs in terms of exceptions. The only thing I
do see is a stop() from james when the disconnect happens, but I haven't
been able to figure out what is generating it. I'm leaning towards it
being something on the James side since both telnet and netscape stop at
the sa
> What is the the way to begin with? Any "how to" somewhere?
http://james.apache.org/mailing_lists_2_1.html
> I believe I showl use DB as James Repository, right?
That's your call. I do.
> How to set up the DB to have "n" mailing lists? Is there an "entity-rel
> model" to relate lists to its
> Since I wrote this email I've been able to narrow down the problem
That's always helpful. :-)
> Attached is a copy of a telnet session to my James server where
> James disconnects after I try to retrieve a message [...]
> list
> +OK 1 715
> 1 715
> .
> retr 1
> +OK Message follows
>
>
> Conne
> You want a authenticate a SERVER identity, as opposed to a SENDER
> identity?
No I was merely observing that AUTH seems designed to identify people who
may be permitted, not machines.
Also that it is possible to associate credentials with outward hosts in
javamail therfore it should be straight
What would you recommend doing to test the cause of the connection
close? I'm telnetting from windows XP straight to port 110, its either
James or the telnet client that is closing the connection. If you want
to try I could set up a test user for you on the server and pre-populate
a problemat
> All of the MailetContext.sendMail(...) methods return void.
They just spool mail. There is no status. I think you are missing the
architectural view.
> When I'm writing a mailet, how can I find out the status of
> a piece of mail I just sent?
You didn't send it. You inserted it into a spool
> I just noticed that if you prematurely quit James (I
> used ctrl-]) the messages aren't deleted.
> Is that a feature?
Absolutely a feature! If you don't do a QUIT, messages are not to be
deleted.
> while doing a more exhaustive telnet test of RETR and DELE of
> every message in my inbox, Jame
OK.
What is the the way to begin with? Any "how to" somewhere?
I believe I showl use DB as James Repository, right?
How to set up the DB to have "n" mailing lists? Is there an "entity-rel
model" to relate lists to its users?
Tks
Felipe
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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMA
Since I wrote this email I've been able to narrow down the problem and I
believe I've taken netscape out of the equation. Attached is a copy of
a telnet session to my James server where James disconnects after I try
to retrieve a message:
+OK mailhost.perspectivesoftware.com POP3 server (JAMES
1. You're correct. CommandListservProcessor doesn't extends from
GenericListserv because there was from a design point of view, not much in
common between the two.
2. Correct again. I'm not sure what the official James plan is for the MLM,
but i wanted to develop and submit a command based MLM,
I've been skimming through the listserv processors code (AvalonListserv,
JDBCListserv, & CommandListservProcessor) to figure whether I can reuse
them for building an ASP style MLM. If I can't reuse, I'm trying to
figure out what classes to extend and what interfaces to implement. So
here are so
Jay,
The only thing that should allow a message to be deleted twice is either a
RSET command, or two parallel sessions. I think I looked, and you had the
same worker id, so the later would not be the cause.
I don't have time to look over Netscape's code. Do any of these look
relevent?
http://b
All of the MailetContext.sendMail(...) methods return void. When I'm
writing a mailet, how can I find out the status of a piece of mail I
just sent?
For a bounce, I can VERP the From: address and catch the bounce in
another mailet. How do I find out other errors like: no domain, SMTP
server do
I take that back, I just noticed that if you prematurely quit James (I
used ctrl-]) the messages aren't deleted. If I then telnet back in I
can retr and delete the same messages that I deleted in the first
session. Is that a feature?
Also, while doing a more exhaustive telnet test of RETR and
>>>I don't believe that james does only support open-relay gateways...
>>No it doesn't thats an incorrect assumption.
>>James can't connect using SMTP AUTH, thats a different thing.
> So the entire gateway thing is actually useless...
What are you talking about? Gateways are quite useful, and w
Danny,
> Regarding the outgoing use of SMTP AUTH for gateways,
> it should be a matter of adding the server and its
> credentials to the session
You want a authenticate a SERVER identity, as opposed to a SENDER identity?
My thought had been that Vincenzo is working on getting Soren's mail
attrib
> > > Thanks. But how can I specify auth for this gateway?
> > Short answer? You don't.
> I don't believe that james does only support open-relay gateways...
What does one have to do with another?
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I ran the telnet test and everything worked as expected (I couldn't
delete the same message twice). I'm still having problems popping
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> From: Timo Nentwig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 July 2003 15:50
> To: James Users List
> Subject: RE: pass outgoing mail to relay server
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> > > I
woops meant this for the developers list, sorry.
> -Original Message-
> From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 July 2003 15:47
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Out going AUTH
>
>
> Regarding the outgoing use of SMTP AUTH for gateways, I think
> this should be
> pretty s
All this and much more is in fetchmail, the successor to fetchpop.
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> Sent: 14 July 2003 16:50
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: fetchpop to leave mails on remote server
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>
> I agree. This would be a hand
I agree. This would be a handy configurable feature. In fact I got
incredibly close to implementing support for it myself!
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Timo Nentwig wrote:
It seems, JAMES is not able to leave mails on the remote host when fetchpop'ing it. This would be very useful for testing...
Please log this as a feature request in bugzilla so we can track this.
Thanks!
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I don't believe that james does only support open-relay gateways...
No it doesn't thats an incorrect assumption.
James can't connect using SMTP AUTH, thats a different thing
Hi!
It seems, JAMES is not able to leave mails on the remote host when fetchpop'ing it.
This would be very useful for testing...
Timo
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> > I don't believe that james does only support open-relay gateways...
>
> No it doesn't thats an incorrect assumption.
> James can't connect using SMTP AUTH, thats a different thing.
So the
Regarding the outgoing use of SMTP AUTH for gateways, I think this should be
pretty simple to add if anyone has the time, it should be a matter of adding
the server and its credentials to the session and getting a transport using
the URL, which will then use AUTH if credentials are available.
d.
> I don't believe that james does only support open-relay gateways...
No it doesn't thats an incorrect assumption.
James can't connect using SMTP AUTH, thats a different thing.
d.
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> > Thanks. But how can I specify auth for this gateway?
>
> Short answer? You don't.
I don't believe that james does only support open-relay gateways...
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> -Original Message-
> From: Sheldon Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 July 2003 11:42
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: SpamAssassin for JAMES?
>
>
> On (2003/07/13 16:42), Timo Nentwig wrote:
>
> > SpamAssassin seems to be quite a good spam filter - but it's written
> > in PE
> Hi!
>
> SpamAssassin seems to be quite a good Spam filter - but it's
> written in PERL. Are there any attempts to port it as a mailet?
I don't believe a port would be the right way to go since you would then be
splitting the code base between Perl and Java implementations, introducing a
maintena
On (2003/07/13 16:42), Timo Nentwig wrote:
> SpamAssassin seems to be quite a good spam filter - but it's written
> in PERL. Are there any attempts to port it as a mailet?
Mad idea. :-)
Better idea would be to write a mailet that implements the client side
of the spamd protocol, to talk to the l
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