Noel - 
Are there any planned features that can only be done in 1.4?


David Schwartz

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Jain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:25 AM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Anyone still using JDK 1.3?

We're still using JDK 1.3.

The issue also arises for small companies (like ours) who are providing 
solutions - where JAMES is a key component - to larger companiens.  I
agree
with Aaron's point of view.

-shal


Quoting Aaron Knauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Unfortunately, those of us who work for large companies don't have the

> luxury of a viewpoint such as this.  A company with a large IT 
> infrastructure is often not as quick on its feet as we would like it
to 
> be.  It can take years to upgrade to a new version of a software 
> product, depending on how important the move is perceived to be by
those 
> at the top.
> 
> As for running both JDK's on your servers, this is not as easy as it 
> sounds.  Yes, it is technically easy - but getting JDK 1.4 onto an
HP-UX 
> box means patching the OS to the recommended minimum level, which
means 
> re-testing everything on that box, which means taking down a
production 
> box, running all sorts of critical applications, for a good chunk of 
> time.  Not something that is easy to get past the network ops team.
> 
> I think that the best approach for now is to do as Steve and Vincenzo 
> suggest and aim to move to 1.4 for James 3.0.  In addition to this, a 
> stream should be left open for development (or at least maintenance)
of 
> James on 1.3.1.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> ADK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote:
> 
> >To Daniel and Noel (and everyone else)
> >
> >We have moved on to 1.4. I do not really see how moving forward can
be a
> >problem; if people have applications which require a JDK 1.3 they can
> >always run both a JDK 1.3 and a JDK 1.4 on their server, and have the
> >old applications run on the 1.3 and James on the 1.4.
> >
> >Since James is an open source project dependant on volunteer
developers,
> >and since 1.4 has many helpful features, wouldn't it be best to
provide
> >the developers with the best platform possible? I think that giving
the
> >developers the best possible development environment is good for the
> >productivity in any project. Unfortunately I myself is not a James
> >developer, but I have been a 1.4 developer for a long time, and I for
> >one would definitely not like to step back to 1.3.
> >
> >
> >Randahl 
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Daniel Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >Sent: 3. juli 2003 07:43
> >To: 'James Users List'
> >Subject: RE: Anyone still using JDK 1.3?
> >
> >I think it is best to leave it still compatible to JDK 1.3.1
minimum...
> >
> >not everyone has moved to JDK 1.4 due to conflict with other
> >applications...
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Daniel
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, 03 July, 2003 1:28 PM
> >To: James-User Mailing List
> >Subject: Anyone still using JDK 1.3?
> >
> >
> >James still supports JDK 1.3, but lately we're wondering if anyone
still
> >cares.  If you are still using JDK prior to JDK 1.4.0, please let us
> >know.
> >
> >     --- Noel
> >
> >
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