Re: ServiceMix 4.0

2007-08-22 Thread Terry Cox
Interesting. We need to have a very serious chat about application lifecycles and governance... Terry

Re: [jira] Commented: (SM-1002) Service mix hangs when the # concurrent requests exceeds the maxConnectionsPerHost

2007-08-16 Thread Terry Cox
This solution is intended for the provider site not for the consumer site. So what I mean is to limit the outgoing connections from servicemix (for example to an external web service) over the provider endpoint with the thread limit. It doesn't depend on the consumer site. Do you know what I mea

Re: [jira] Commented: (SM-1002) Service mix hangs when the # concurrent requests exceeds the maxConnectionsPerHost

2007-08-16 Thread Terry Cox
So if you let the thread pool define the mnumber of connections you wouldn't get a hang and would not lose any messages. Am I right? Not necessarily. What you are doing in that situation is directly coupling the number of internal threads with the number of external connections, leaving the ma

Re: [jira] Commented: (SM-1002) Service mix hangs when the # concurrent requests exceeds the maxConnectionsPerHost

2007-08-16 Thread Terry Cox
So what if we put both limits to a very high number in the default configuration ? Is there any drawbacks? The risk there is that you are just increasing the size of the bang when it goes wrong. The system must degrade gracefully under heavy load in a production environment. If it has operatin

Re: [DISCUSS] Split container and components release cycles ?

2007-07-03 Thread Terry Cox
If we go that way, how could we deal with the examples ? I guess they would either require the use to download the components, or be available on a separate distros (and thus have their own release cycle too). Ideally needs a Maven-like dependency management system for components so that you c

Re: [DISCUSS] Split container and components release cycles ?

2007-07-02 Thread Terry Cox
I think it would certainly help to drill out some of the general component lifecycle management issues. -- Terry

Re: Removing ServiceMix build on continuum

2007-02-27 Thread Terry Cox
I think it's a good plan to have a continuous build system on the snapshot versions of each branch, but somebody on the team needs access to resolve issues like this and we should make sure that the notification system is configured to generate a smaller volume of warning messages. --

Re: Spring 2.0 and XBean

2007-02-17 Thread Terry Cox
> Well evidently XBean 2.8 depends on Spring 1.2.4 which I don't > understand. I seem to recall that XBean used Spring 2.x so I'm > rather > perplexed as to why a dep on Spring 1.2.4 is defined in the POM. I'm > sure Guillaume can shed some light on it, so let's wait for his > response. XBean con

Re: Spring 2.0 and XBean

2007-02-17 Thread Terry Cox
> Terry, what is the $xbean.version is used in the pom.xml? 2.8 My code is built against the 3.1 release of ServiceMix. As an experiment, I just deleted all the 1.2.x versions of Spring from my repository and built ServiceMix 3.1 from source. Spring versions 1.2.4 and 1.2.6 both re-appeared in t

Re: Spring 2.0 and XBean

2007-02-17 Thread Terry Cox
> why is there a spring 1.2.4 version in the classpath ? > You need to remove it somehow. It appears to be coming in via the maven-xbean-plugin, which seems to import xbean-spring. I have tried over-riding the dependency on xbean spring in the plugin reference and excluding Spring, but that doesnt

Re: Build broken

2007-01-12 Thread Terry Cox
That fixed it. One day, compiler technology will evolve far enough to reliably handle dependency management for large projects... :) Terry

Build broken

2007-01-12 Thread Terry Cox
Just synchronised with HEAD and ran the build, but it is failing at ServiceMix :: Samples :: WSDL first :: SA [INFO] Determining component name for service unit wsdl-first-jsr181-su [INFO] [ERROR] FATAL ERROR [INFO] --

Re: Build SM 3.0.1 broken

2006-11-06 Thread Terry Cox
Downloading: http://www.ibiblio.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/specs/geronimo-qname_1.1_spec/1.0.1/geronimo-qname_1.1_spec-1.0.1.test [WARNING] Unable to get resource from repository central I can confirm this. Looks like something in the tooling as it is breaking my application build. Terry

Re: renaming servicemix-jsr181?

2006-10-11 Thread Terry Cox
if we call it servicemix-cxf or servicemix-xfire - that still isn't very descriptive of what it does :) I've read the documentation several times and I *still* don't know what it does. :) Terry

Re: (was: Re: User Feedback Request)

2006-10-03 Thread Terry Cox
It seems most of the docs could be moved to the User's Guide, so maybe the User's Guide is not worth it. Opinions ? Perhaps the User's Guide should focus on walking through some end to end examples in detail with explanations? If it is done correctly, it should also form a QA document for exa

Re: SUM: Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus

2006-09-28 Thread Terry Cox
Interesting. 'sm' words in English often have negative or derogative connotations: Smut Smack Smug Small Smarm Smash Smatter Smear Smeg Smell Smirch Smit Smite Smithereens Smog Smother Smudge I would advise against 'sm' words for that reason. Other thoughts: intermixable.org overmix.org mixibl

Re: Changing the name of the ServiceMix project at the Codehaus

2006-09-06 Thread Terry Cox
ServiceMixins Bit cheesy from a professional 'business technology' point of view. Terry

Re: Why do examples need maven to run

2006-08-24 Thread Terry Cox
Encouraging new developers to work within maven is probably a good thing as dependency management is a big part of the JBI world. Maven enforces good practices with respect to that and hopefully the examples will provide a cleaner path into a workable build environment. We initially experience

Re: jbi:embedded...

2006-08-08 Thread Terry Cox
If you put commons-pool as a dependency of your project, the jbi:embeddedServicemix goal will put it in the classpath. I tried that, but it didn't make any difference. (against HEAD from yesterday afternoon) Terry

jbi:embedded...

2006-08-08 Thread Terry Cox
When starting a ServiceMix instance, it makes sense to me to put the ActiveMQ-related config in the top level servicemix.xml and then put JMS component-related stuff in Service Units that can be deployed in the container. Only trouble is, creating a connection pool depends on commons-pool whi

New examples work broken build?

2006-08-05 Thread Terry Cox
Just synchronised and performed a step1, step2 build but it seems to be failing on the bridge samples stuff: [ERROR] BUILD ERROR [INFO] [INFO] Failed to resolve artifact. Missing: -- 1) org.apache.servicemix.sampl

Re: Refactor samples to use the maven jbi plugin

2006-08-01 Thread Terry Cox
I've just seen a problem though. Far from me to say "I told you so" but... This is causing us some problems too. It also raises the issue of the build resolving or flagging dependency issues within SUs, which is likely to become a problem in the lifecycle of richly featured applications usi

Re: Thoughts on restructuring

2006-07-12 Thread Terry Cox
To add my bit to this idea. I am discovering that in order to develop components, you end up with lots of dependencies back into the ServiceMix project, most especially if you wish to be able to run unit tests that instantiate a container in order to test components. This in turn means that the

Problem with projectDeploy task

2006-07-08 Thread Terry Cox
> Refactored the projectDeploy goal so that is can determine whether > dependencies are already deployed and if so it will stop and undeploy > them before redeploying This seems to have broken the jbi:projectDeploy task here. I now get: [ERROR] BUILD ERROR [INFO] -

Re: NPE running ComponentAssemblyInstallationTest in servicemix-core

2006-06-27 Thread Terry Cox
The question here is should the test component installer jbi.xml files have the bootstrap-class-path element added as an empty > element () ? The specification is not that helpful here: "The JBI implementation MUST create an InstallationContext object, initialized to provide the following dat