Re: classes to generate HTML

2000-04-13 Thread Doug Turner
Check out JSP. - Original Message - From: Heidi Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: classes to generate HTML > He, > > I was looking for classes or other utilities to genenerate HTML > > htt

Re: classes to generate HTML

2000-04-12 Thread Harald Meyer
Heidi Vogel wrote: > I was looking for classes or other utilities to genenerate HTML > > http://www.bus.miami.edu/~troy/htmlutils/ > > I have difficulties in integrating these into my servlets, is their anybody > who can tell me how I do this. You might also try the classes of the Element Construc

classes to generate HTML

2000-04-12 Thread Heidi Vogel
He, I was looking for classes or other utilities to genenerate HTML http://www.bus.miami.edu/~troy/htmlutils/ I have difficulties in integrating these into my servlets, is their anybody who can tell me how I do this. ThanX in advance, Heidi Heidi Vogel.vcf

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-05-12 Thread S.Ramaswamy
> I'd say that HTML generation is useful when 1) the person writing the > servlet code is the same as the person writing HTML; 2) the code > generating the HTML may not be part of the servlet directly, but called > from it -- could happen when a component not only sends HTML to web > browsers, but

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-26 Thread jon *
> I'd say that HTML generation is useful when 1) the person writing the > servlet code is the same as the person writing HTML; Today I had the idea of using the OpenXML HTML parser to read in an HTML file and generate ECS code from the HTML parser. Almost like a .jsp -> servlet conversion type sy

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-25 Thread James Duncan Davidson
(cc'd back out to servlet interest -- sorry, I don't have the bandwith for one-on-one mail threads...) > I guess I didn't state my question clearly: In what situations is is > better to use HTML generation (and why)? I understand the reasons to use > a template engine, and what most of the drawba

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-25 Thread James Duncan Davidson
> I have a question: Why use a "HTML generator" when there are several > templete evaluation engines available? Because in the world of web programming, there is no such thing as a one size fits all solution when it comes to getting the HTML onto the client. For quite a large number of folks, the

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-21 Thread Paul Philion
jon * wrote: > Paul Philion (I think) wrote: > > I ask simply because I--personally--would use template engines and try > > to seperate my HTML from my servlet as much as possible (keep my > > servlets as simply the bridge between presentation [HTML] and the > > business logic). > > There is no re

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-21 Thread jon *
> I ask simply because I--personally--would use template engines and try > to seperate my HTML from my servlet as much as possible (keep my > servlets as simply the bridge between presentation [HTML] and the > business logic). There is no reason why this can't be done using a framework that loads

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-21 Thread jon *
>Ideal reference for HTML generation is the CGI.pm which is available as a > perl module. > This is just too good. For we servlet developers this kinda class is just an > overkill and > godsend. Please any of those respected gurus please look into this and help > lesser mortals > from the drud

Re: HTML template engines [was Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?]

1999-04-21 Thread Justin Wells
Hi Paul, I'll answe this as the developer of a free servlet framework which includes a template engine: http://www.webmacro.org Stefano (Java-Apache) tried to get us all talking about this at one point. The problem is there are radically different approaches to how data should be provided to

Re: HTML template engines [was Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?]

1999-04-21 Thread Paul Philion
Cezar (et al) - Cezar Totth wrote: > Because you mentioned about a FAQ to include your message. > the http://japs.genesys.ro might be interesting too. I'll add that to my list. > You know about a template-related mailing list? I've seen lots of wheels, > in many shapes and sizes (re)invented by

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Venkatesh Kumar A G
HTML generation. venkatesh -Original Message- From: Paul Philion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why? >Greetings... > >[Sorry, I deleted the original posting.] > >I have a question: Why use a "

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
>> But in "typical" web/scripting/app-writing scenarios, this kind of design >> formality might be a drawback. > >If (when) we have real WYSIWYG tools for graphic designers to use to >develop XSL from DTDs, this won't be an issue. Before we had decent HTML >tools, the programmers were developing t

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Justin Wells
Your right. I have a long history of working with XML/SGML and yet here I am author of a package which is in a way a competitor. But in a way it isn't either--XML is going to dominate many areas of we development, but not all. Unless your project is document centric already, or has some other spe

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Paul Philion
More thoughts "Rogatkin, Dmitry" wrote: > Tasks: > 1. a few web pages generation with predefined layouts > use templates approach Sounds good. > 2. a few web pages generation with not predefined layouts (calculated > dynamically) use HTML generation classes Well... based on some work that

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Paul Philion
Robb Shecter wrote: > For example, the way that these HTML template systems have been described > makes it sound like they're competitors to the idea of XML+XSL. I would offer that XML+XSL is one examlpe of a template system. The transformation from XML to HTML through XSL is the template part. T

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Rogatkin, Dmitry
- From: Robb Shecter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why? > "Robert A. Crawford" wrote: > > > A template system separates the HTML/formatting from the > > logic

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Robb Shecter
"Robert A. Crawford" wrote: > A template system separates the HTML/formatting from the > logic Hi, Thanks for the feedback, everyone. It'd be interesting to make a taxonomy of web content generation ideas, and implementations of those ideas. For example, the way that these HTML template sy

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Andres Portillo
Thanx for the Help. And by the way, I'm actually using both methods in a single aplication (templates and code generator). I use a kind of template to create the most of the html code, and I have an special tag that represents an HTML table so when I find one of this I use the generator to cr

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Justin Wells
See http://www.webmacro.org With WebMacro, from the programmers viewpoint all you have to do to make an array of customers available is this: Customer[] people = ... context.put("Customers", people); WebMacro passes you a hashtable called "context", you just drop anything you like i

HTML template engines [was Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?]

1999-04-20 Thread Paul Philion
Let's see... Robb Shecter wrote: > What's a typical template evaluation system? How does the code look that servlet > programmers must write when they use it? 1) What's a typical template evaluation system? This question is a little vague, so I'll answer it twice: 1a) What is an HTML template

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Robert A. Crawford
On Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 04:51:22PM +0200, Robb Shecter wrote: > Paul Philion wrote: > > Greetings... > > I have a question: Why use a "HTML generator" when there are several > > templete evaluation engines available? > Hi. > What's a typical template evaluation system? How does the code look > th

Re: Classes to generate HTML

1999-04-20 Thread Robb Shecter
Hi, > > [...Element Construction Set...] > Hi, This sort of project looks worthwhile - sort of a Java version of CGI.pm. It lets you code like: doc.appendBody(new H1("Demo Header")); I think that something more high-level is needed, though. I've been working on a small HtmlDoc class that I

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Robb Shecter
Paul Philion wrote: > Greetings... > > [Sorry, I deleted the original posting.] > > I have a question: Why use a "HTML generator" when there are several > templete evaluation engines available? Hi. What's a typical template evaluation system? How does the code look that servlet programmers mus

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Nic Ferrier
>>> Paul Philion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/20/99 2:15:52 PM >>> >I ask simply because I--personally--would use template engines and try >to seperate my HTML from my servlet as much as possible (keep my >servlets as simply the bridge between presentation [HTML] and the >business logic). I agree to an

Re: Classes to generate HTML -- Why?

1999-04-20 Thread Paul Philion
Greetings... [Sorry, I deleted the original posting.] I have a question: Why use a "HTML generator" when there are several templete evaluation engines available? I ask simply because I--personally--would use template engines and try to seperate my HTML from my servlet as much as possible (keep

Re: Classes to generate HTML

1999-04-19 Thread Ray Tayek
At 05:17 PM 4/19/99 -0700, you wrote: >>Does somebody knows about classes that can handle and generate HTML >> code instead of doing by hand. ... there's a real interesting article at http://www.devx.com/upload/free/features/javapro/1999/04apr99/ds0499/ds0499. asp about using some swing stuff

Re: Classes to generate HTML

1999-04-19 Thread Justin Wells
http://www.webmacro.org Justin > Hi: > >Does somebody knows about classes that can handle and generate HTML > code instead of doing by hand. I mean, if I want to create a HTML > table, I could do something like this: > > HtmlTable t = new HtmlTable(2 ,3); > > where 2 and 3 stands for th

Classes to generate HTML

1999-04-19 Thread Andres Portillo
Hi: Does somebody knows about classes that can handle and generate HTML code instead of doing by hand. I mean, if I want to create a HTML table, I could do something like this: HtmlTable t = new HtmlTable(2 ,3); where 2 and 3 stands for the row and colums, and late you can modify the pr

Re: Classes to generate HTML

1999-04-19 Thread jon *
>Does somebody knows about classes that can handle and generate HTML > code instead of doing by hand. I mean, if I want to create a HTML > table, I could do something like this: > > HtmlTable t = new HtmlTable(2 ,3); > > where 2 and 3 stands for the row and colums, and late you can modify

Re: Classes to generate HTML

1999-04-19 Thread Nic Ferrier
>>> Andres Portillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/20/99 12:35:31 AM >>> > Does somebody knows about classes that can handle and generate HTML >code instead of doing by hand. I mean, if I want to create a HTML >table, I could do something like this: After you Jon Nic