I don't see Singularity as a threat yet (if ever). The Sing# language
stuff and verifiable contracts are cool and all. But they're too foreign
to a normal developer, as opposed to pure C#. Likewise, the MSR-AL
license is quite restrictive. Hope no one on any of our projects have
looked at the s
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Subject:Re: Question about acting as legal entity for code
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:48:15 -0600
From: Justin T. Gibbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Scott Balmos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Scott,
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Bruce wrote:
> Governance Issues
> We still need to work out licensing. We are rather split on whether or
> not we should license different components differently, so that
> particular discussion has definitely not matured yet - though it has
> stagnated.
>
> I can't recall directly, but I think
Sander van Rossen wrote:
> The file BuiltinKeymaps.ska is missing in the SVN even tough it's
> included in the kernel project file..
> Can someone upload it? thx
>
>
I believe it is built at compile-time, IIRC, and thus should not be
included in the trunk.
Next post, concerning the future position of the SharpOS Board as a
legal entity...
Again, the way I envision it is a hybrid between the FreeBSD
Foundation's relation to FreeBSD itself, and Canonical's relation to
Ubuntu. Neither the FreeBSD Foundation or Canonical directly own the
copyright t
I've done some heavy reading of both licenses (specifically MPL 1.1 and
LGPL 2.1) this evening. Further, the question over LGPL's usefulness is
not without precedent. See the somewhat-informative Ask Slashdot from a
few years back:
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/15/1945200
You wi
William Lahti wrote:
> Let's move this over to the -developers list. I forwarded Sander's
> original post as his has not shown up on the list yet.
>
>
Uh, it *is* on the developers list. :)
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Sander van Rossen wrote:
> What is exactly the difference between the two wiki pages "wanton
> desires" and "blue sky dreams"?
> The "wanton desires" page has the following text:
> "This page is here for us to gather and comment on ideas which are
> reasonably doable"
> This kind of implies a proce
I would tend to agree with MPL. As a developer, I am concerned that my
original copyright remains intact. But I recognize there has to be
provisions for commercial companies to contribute, and also link / use
binary-only code (where binary in our case is defined as bytecode, not
source C# or wh
Sander van Rossen wrote:
> On 8/31/07, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> I think having dual licensing with BSD/MPL is going to moot the
>>>
>> Im not suggesting it be dual like Indy. My suggestion was maybe that we ADD
>> a BSD clause ON TOP of the MPL... that woul
Bruce wrote:
> Since the governing body of SharpOS is lacking, we are currently
> accepting requests for individuals to be added to the decision-making
> body.
>
> There have been several newcomers, (or in some cases, long-quiet
> lurkers) speaking up recently. Forgive me for not enumerating you
Dennis Hayes wrote:
> Mono uses the vote with code concept. You want it to work one way, you
> write code that way. He with the most and best code wins. Typically
> there is only one "vote".
> Given the small sioze of the overall group, and the very small group
> who actually write code, I don't
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
> Not for voice, but in addition to IRC I find skype great for IM. It can do
> multichat as well...
>
> I'm kudzu22 on my dev machine, ziloni on travel.
>
I just signed up. Might as well try it out... scott.balmos
Likewise, I'm ScottBalmos on AIM and 1325000 on IC
Darx Kies wrote:
> Scott Balmos wrote:
>
>> Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd like to make a few proposals.
>>>
>>> 1) We establish a loose but workable team structure which includes conflict
>>> resolution.
Darx Kies wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would opt for LGPL for the kernel, GPL for the drivers and the rest.
> A commercial dual-licensing should be ok too.
>
> Chriss.
>
> Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
>
>> Which also brings up...
>>
>> Go to the home page. Search for "license". I Cant find anything... ru
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
> Which also brings up...
>
> Go to the home page. Search for "license". I Cant find anything... rule #1
> of any open source project (Darn, cant use OS abbreviation, would be
> ambiguous) is to prominently display the license.
>
Another thing that I have already d
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
>> Someone will probably say this already exists. I don't know. My major
>> recommendation right now is establishment of a build master, who owns
>>
>
> Where is it documented? :) What is the process of conflict resolution? I
> don't just mean build team vs doc t
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
> I'd like to make a few proposals.
>
> 1) We establish a loose but workable team structure which includes conflict
> resolution.
>
>
Someone will probably say this already exists. I don't know. My major
recommendation right now is establishment of a build master,
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
> I looked at Singularity about 2 years back. I haven't looked at it since
> then. I spent the last 2 years developing a lot of ideas etc. Today I
> reviewed newer info on Singularity. Its pretty much 100% inline with what
> I've designed. There are some differences o
Johann MacDonagh wrote:
> They have released the source code to several Universities for
> research (check out their website). I'm lobbying to get them to send
> my University a copy. Of course, I would be restricted by an NDA, but
> I think it would be fascinating to look at.
>
> Johann
>
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
>> IIRC, there's something like Inferno or Plan9 too (of which Inferno is
>> reincarnation of P9 with a runtime thingy like .NET)
>>
>
> No one is aware of any CLR based ones though? (Again Singularity aside)
>
>
Not that I am aware of. The niche arena of OS d
Matthijs ter Woord wrote:
> There's a similar project for Java, (more than one iirc), can't remember
> names though
>
JNode (http://www.jnode.org). Given that my primary language is Java, I
have *extensively* studied it. There are others, but JNode is the
farthest along (as in it actuall
Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
> Also again. :)
>
> Could everyone enumerate where they are located? :)
>
>
Cincinnati, more or less. I live on the northern side of town, and work
in Covington, KY, right across the river from downtown.
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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu wrote:
>> on writing the design specs for my CLR-based OS, which I named Ensemble
>> (I'm the author of that "400-page" paper, which is more really like 20
>>
>
> Is it available somewhere for reading?
>
>
http://members.simunex.com/sbalmos/CosmOS.pdf (heh, notice I
I have previously brought up this topic when I first joined about two
months ago. We essentially agreed to disagree. Previously, I was working
on writing the design specs for my CLR-based OS, which I named Ensemble
(I'm the author of that "400-page" paper, which is more really like 20
something
William Lahti wrote:
> AOT
> - Core
> - Core.Tests
> - Kernel.Tests
> - Main
> Data
> - KeyMaps
> Kernel
> - Core
> - korlib
> References
> - Mono.GetOptions.dll
> - Mono.Cecil.dll
> Tools
> - KernelTestsWrapperGen
> - KeyCompiler
>
> We also plan to store the SharpOS userspace at trunk/Userspace.
So much for attending either meeting. Weekend schedules have that way of
changing on a dime...
As I was talking with William last week (I like using real names rather
than IRC nicks. You get to know people faster that way), I would
advocate a dual license between LGPL (maybe GPL v2, but I'll ge
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