Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Vectorgolf1
In a message dated 10/28/2006 5:22:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Date: 10/28/2006 5:22:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent from the Internet Well,

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Tom
Hey Professor; Indeed, coulda been you. What really cracks me up is that if I had followed the recommendations provided by the (you know what) I'd likely be in traction today, rather than undergoing epidurals (six so far, with six more scheduled for Thursday next). The good news is that they s

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 08:22 PM 10/28/2006, tflan wrote: ...I don't recall anyone on these here pages who was tested with LHack's device other than one guy (who I don't recall). What I do recall is that the tested one wasn't happy at all with the results. Could have been me. The shoe fits. The recommendation was

Re: ShopTalk: Annual Fitchip debate...........

2006-10-28 Thread Tom
Hey Jen; Notice the double entendre from Arnie? I think he was serious. Doing anything later? TFlan

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Tom
Okay, ohhky. I get the firmness of the reply ;-) TFlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/28/06 8:22:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering then, theorists aside, has anyone ever actually tried the FitChip? I trie

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 10/28/06 8:22:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering then, theorists aside, has anyone ever actually tried the FitChip? I tried the FitChip twice and have the children to prove it. I just chalked it up to experience and call the result

Re: ShopTalk: Annual Fitchip debate...........

2006-10-28 Thread Jen Kuntz
I second that motion (as I put a filter on email with the word "fitchip" ; ) ) *yawn* Chris Stricker wrote: So, it's clear that the weather is turning cooler in parts of the World.  Got Lloyd sprouting his theories that no one else agrees with, everyone else that has a physics/eng

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread tflan
Well, here's the thing; there's about as much back and forth about this - again, as there was a year ago. However I don't recall anyone on these here pages who was tested with LHack's device other than one guy (who I don't recall). What I do recall is that the tested one wasn't happy at all

ShopTalk: Annual Fitchip debate...........

2006-10-28 Thread Chris Stricker
So, it's clear that the weather is turning cooler in parts of the World.  Got Lloyd sprouting his theories that no one else agrees with, everyone else that has a physics/engineering degree is trying to disprove that again, and we have the makings for the most boring stretch of shoptalk posti

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Alan Brooks
Lloyd, Sorry, no, the motion of the shaft can be decomposed into a rigid body motion and the oscillatory motion. The initial bending of the shaft at the top of the downswing is a result of the loads applied by the hands. Although the loading by the hands continues during the downswing the c

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Alan So, during the loading of the shaft and the first 1/4 cycle of the release it is acting as a rigid body because once the shaft is loaded there are no forces to change the position of the grip in the hands (not even a spring force because flesh is not a spring) until the shaft passes through s

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Alan Brooks
At 03:51 PM 10/28/2006 -0400, you wrote: It is also not a 'free' beam > end, but I think a better model would be a 'hinged' connection to the mass > of the hands. ***It would be difficult to justify a hinge since the shaft is held in the hands over 5 to 7 inches of length and the wrists are no

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Arniesclubs
Darn! It's going to be a Lng Winter! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repea

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Lloyd Hackman
*** Response below > [Original Message] > From: Alan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/27/2006 10:13:53 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour > > Sorry, Lloyd, this mechanical engineer doesn't buy it. The hands are far > to soft to produce a cantilevered response. Think of the

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread MYKEYGOLF
Hey T Flan and all,  Lloyd never ever never ever gives up. No matter what. LOL :-). I luv you guys, ~~myKey~~, Mike Phelan

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread tflan
Apparently it will go on until "dose" becomes "does".   TFlan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Please tell me I'm not loosing my mind! Wasn

Re: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread drgolf
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont anyone respond to this topic! You are correct Arnie we have beaten this to death more than once. From: "Lloyd Hackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/10/27 Fri PM 07:32:17 EST To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Alan Even I will