Don't get me wrong, I am playing the IDrive Square head, and knocking the daylights out of it, using the graphite design 6+ at 46", but IMO it is a harder head to build a long driver on. I built 2 at 48" for customers that were using long drivers and had no luck at all with the square head. IMO I think the face height is just a little too small for use as a long driver. George
Carl McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is also one called Turner Ablaze that has the same 'triangle' shape. I've been playing it for several weeks now with good results. Like George said, the shape is a little more acceptable than the square. Carl GEORGE HUSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Bernie, Hit the new Integra "Triangle" yesterday, 9.5 loft. You may want to try it for the long driver, has a higher face height more like the old integra 450, very hot face. Built a 46" using a MCC studio 64 shaft firm flex. Only got to hit it a couple of times before customer showed up and took it away from me. Got orders for 2 more on the spot. Very nice head, nice traj. and seems to hold the line like the square heads with a more acceptable shape. George Huson ByGeorge Custom Clubs Bernie Baymiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ron, Some small talk so you have something to read... :-) Yup. Nice weather here in east Tennessee when we get early tee times and not so bad in the afternoon, either. Pop-up showers keep a breeze going and clouds cut the heat. And, I'm sure enjoying the golf playing on a new knee after being in and out of the hospital and rehab for 14 months. I heartily recommend the new Ti knees to anyone who's worn out the original. Long 48" BOM/PE-A/Winn Excel mid driver is back up to 240-250 yards on solid hits and almost as straight as ever. At 72, I'm reasonably satisfied with that, since I certainly qualify for the senior tees. Scoring 74 to 80 most of the time, which I haven't been able to do for two years. It's very helpful to have a solid left knee to swing against. Hope you are playing well, too. Have been having fun with "Flanagan-type make-dos." :-) Needed a long belly putter grip yesterday. Took two pulled 69 cent Grip One Seamless Softwraps (with a sliver spiral) in good shape, clamped them flat near the third spiral from the lower end, cut with a sharp knife for a clean cut right on the spiral line. Then, found a correct sized bit of old steel shaft to sharpen and cut a hole in one grip's butt end. Built up the putter shaft a bit, added my grip tape. Wet the tape and grip pieces with solvent, slipped on the piece with the cutt butt hole downward to about the right position and followed with the other piece. The grips stretch easily and I twisted them to match up the spiral cuts. Could barely see the cut between the two pieces. Looks nice, works fine. Making something for almost nothing is always fun. :-) Info for long driver users: Tried a square driver a couple of months ago (Quadratic 10.5°) at 48" club length and found the square shape is not very good for long drivers unless the lie is almost correct. The face is much shallower than similar sized, more round-shaped 460cc heads and the Quad has a more upright lie at about 60°. The toe sits up more on longer drivers for shorty me and the shallower, more "rectangular" shape of the head makes it a smaller, angled spot and more difficult to hit perfectly. I'm much more consistent with the big, round 460cc heads at 48" clublength. Doesn't matter if the toe is up a bit or not with a round-faced head. I've already cut the Quad down to 46" and it played much more consistently, though I lost about 15 yards. BOM is back in my bag. Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Kellison" To: Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Are we all playing golf? >I haven't received anything for several days! > > Regards, > > Ron > > Carl Mc Kinley Retired, PCS Certified Class 'A' Clubmaker (Life Member) GCA Accredited Clubbuilder [EMAIL PROTECTED] P T Barnum is the patron saint of expensive club manufacturers. --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.