Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread John Schnizlein
David, What you may be looking for is Steve Kent's Trust Anchor Management presentation (and the errata slide 13) - the last items in the SIDR materials from IETF 75. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html John On 2009Sep14, at 3:58 PM, David Conrad wrote: With SIDR,

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread Terry Manderson
Hi John, While I appreciate the work by Steve here to allow a relying party to put on the rose coloured validation glasses, it is an inside view looking out. That means is allows an organisation to locally say what it believes is the RPKI view of the world irrespective of what is said

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread Stephen Kent
At 9:51 AM +1000 9/15/09, Terry Manderson wrote: Hi John, While I appreciate the work by Steve here to allow a relying party to put on the rose coloured validation glasses, it is an inside view looking out. That means is allows an organisation to locally say what it believes is the RPKI view

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread Terry Manderson
Hi Steve, On 15/09/2009, at 11:03 AM, Stephen Kent wrote: Terry, I think you misunderstand the nature of trust anchors in PKIs. No entity can force all relying parties adopt the entity as a TA, period. The acceptance of a TA is always a local matter, if the software is properly

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Let me start by saying a couple of positive things: 1) In order to even start on securing this space, we are going to need some sort of certificates 2) As far as I can tell, in order for the certificates to make any sense they have got to be related to the hierarchy of address assignment.

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message 48da8f07-cc0a-4cfa-9153-056585483...@virtualized.org David Conrad writes: [.. snip, sorry ..] Is this scenario accurate? I haven't a clue. :-) I'm out of the layer 8 loop. My understanding is that an entity with a very large address space would be entitled to run their own

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-14 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message 6c269e52-839e-46f4-9db1-449cb2376...@isoc.org John Schnizlein writes: David, What you may be looking for is Steve Kent's Trust Anchor Management presentation (and the errata slide 13) - the last items in the SIDR materials from IETF 75.