Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Eric Osterweil
On Jan 17, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Chi wrote: > On 1/17/2013 4:23 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04 > > This revision clarifies the wording on route leaks as a residual

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Eric Osterweil wrote: > - I also don't understand how the text in this (a threats document) can claim > that route > leaks are beyond the scope of PATHSEC in a fait accompli manner... This is a > threats document, right? This is a threat to BGP, right? The RP

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Eric Osterweil
On Jan 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Eric Osterweil > wrote: > >> - I also don't understand how the text in this (a threats document) can >> claim that route >> leaks are beyond the scope of PATHSEC in a fait accompli manner... This is a

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Randy Bush
> I had thought the wg's broader goal was to protect those that rely on > BGP? good luck with that. start an insurance business. it is to protect the protocol from being gamed. randy ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/lis

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Eric Osterweil
On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> I had thought the wg's broader goal was to protect those that rely on >> BGP? > > good luck with that. start an insurance business. Good one, Randy... Eric ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https:

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Eric Osterweil wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> I had thought the wg's broader goal was to protect those that rely on >>> BGP? I think the goal has been to protect the routing system through better protections of the protocol. I hope