Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-origin-validation-signaling-04

2014-05-05 Thread Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
Randy, because the goal of this draft can already be reached simply through use of existing means, i do not support publication. i am not strongly opposed. it's just one more bit of ietf work that is not obviously needed. Here are the three reasons that may refresh our mind on why after 4

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2014-05-05 Thread Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
Randy, while checking the docco, i found 3.14 While the trust level of a route should be determined by the BGPsec protocol, local routing preference and policy MUST then be applied to best path and other routing decisions. Such mechanisms SHOULD conform with

[sidr] A note about a few tools that maybe of interest:

2014-05-05 Thread Montgomery, Douglas
We run a RPKI monitor that examines various statistics of the emerging RPKI and its relationship to global BGP trace data. Aspects of the RPKI-BGP component are similar to some of the other monitors, the RPKI analysis component offers some new data and visualizations of emerging RPKI structure

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2014-05-05 Thread Randy Bush
3.14 While the trust level of a route should be determined by the BGPsec protocol, local routing preference and policy MUST then be applied to best path and other routing decisions. Such mechanisms SHOULD conform with [I-D.ietf-sidr-ltamgmt]. ... 3.17 If a

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2014-05-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: 3.14 While the trust level of a route should be determined by the BGPsec protocol, local routing preference and policy MUST then be applied to best path and other routing decisions. Such mechanisms

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-origin-validation-signaling-04

2014-05-05 Thread Randy Bush
This document creates an IANA registry for the BGP origin validation state. which is highly inappropriate, as the three and only three states are cast in stone. this should be removed if we're going to progress the document. 2) Documenting change on BGP decision process changes: Section 3.

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2014-05-05 Thread Randy Bush
3.14 While the trust level of a route should be determined by the BGPsec protocol, local routing preference and policy MUST then be applied to best path and other routing decisions. Such mechanisms SHOULD conform with [I-D.ietf-sidr-ltamgmt]. ... 3.17 If a

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs

2014-05-05 Thread Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
On May 5, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: 3.14 While the trust level of a route should be determined by the BGPsec protocol, local routing preference and policy MUST then be applied to best path and other routing decisions. Such mechanisms SHOULD

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-origin-validation-signaling-04

2014-05-05 Thread heasley
Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:03:46PM +0200, Randy Bush: And lets not forget: Running Code: Last but not least???the draft has been delayed more than what it should and several implementations (including two from Cisco) has running code + documentation + training. As we are pushing to improve