Re: [sidr] two stranded docuemnts - stake time

2016-08-01 Thread Stephen Kent
Tim, Although I appreciate that Randy is trying to explain the case in terms anyone can understand, it would be preferable to keep it general. agreed. (Including a parenthetical note about the historical precedent of a Dutch court order involving RIPE is relevant and might be included.)

Re: [sidr] two stranded docuemnts - stake time

2016-08-01 Thread Tim Bruijnzeels
Steve, > On 01 Aug 2016, at 14:42, Stephen Kent wrote: > > Tim, > > >> >> Although I appreciate that Randy is trying to explain the case in terms >> anyone can understand, it would be preferable to keep it general. > agreed. >> >>> (Including a parenthetical note about the historical prece

Re: [sidr] two stranded docuemnts - stake time

2016-08-01 Thread Stephen Kent
Tim, I agree that the preferred approach is to persuade law enforcement folks to not view the RPKI as a new tool for taking down sites. However, I have already encountered folks in the law enforcement community who viewed it as such. I have argued that this wold be bad, but ... Given the nat

Re: [sidr] two stranded docuemnts - stake time

2016-08-01 Thread Randy Bush
you may, or may not, notice that the current i-d does not mention ripe/ncc randy ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

Re: [sidr] Validation reconsidered and X.509v3 extension OIDs

2016-08-01 Thread Sean Turner
> On Jul 21, 2016, at 06:36, Tim Bruijnzeels wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > Thank you for the pointers. I am traveling now but I will get back to it. > > Thanks > Tim > >> On 21 Jul 2016, at 10:56, Russ Housley wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 19, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Rob Austein wrote: >> >>> At Tue, 19 Jul