Re: [sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Randy Bush
>> huh? i see the following: > Arrgh. My bad. (I read the intro, I read TCP-AO, and I skipped to the > end of the list.) it is a carefully constructed yet painful compromise with reality. > Never mind, what I want is already there. do i get a refund? :) randy _

Re: [sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Greetings again. Section 7 of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-14 has a list >> of supported transports. However, it does not list the one that some >> people have said that they expect it to be run under sometimes, namely >> bare TCP. > > huh? i see the

Re: [sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Randy Bush
> Greetings again. Section 7 of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-14 has a list > of supported transports. However, it does not list the one that some > people have said that they expect it to be run under sometimes, namely > bare TCP. huh? i see the following: Caches and routers MUST implement unprot

Re: [sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Montgomery, Douglas wrote: > As a practical matter, what do you think the effect of the "MUST" in the > last sentence will be? That vendors cannot provide bare TCP as a transport in a system that contains no other security mechanisms. On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:42 AM,

Re: [sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Montgomery, Douglas
As a practical matter, what do you think the effect of the "MUST" in the last sentence will be? -- Doug Montgomery ­ Mgr. Internet & Scalable Systems Research / ITL / NIST On 8/2/11 1:34 PM, "Paul Hoffman" wrote: >Greetings again. Section 7 of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-14 has a list of >su

Re: [sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Joe Touch
On 8/2/2011 10:34 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. Section 7 of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-14 has a list of supported transports. However, it does not list the one that some people have said that they expect it to be run under sometimes, namely bare TCP. If we all know that this is lik

[sidr] Expected protocols in rpki-rtr

2011-08-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. Section 7 of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-14 has a list of supported transports. However, it does not list the one that some people have said that they expect it to be run under sometimes, namely bare TCP. If we all know that this is likely to be the case, we should have it listed i