Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Sri Panyam
Actually I am going to come out and say it despite sounding uncool. I am doing a startup so I can become time rich at the end of it! There said it. Feels a lot better. And a big part of that is me wanting financial independance so I can focus my yime on what I like doing most (including but no

Re: [SiliconBeach] Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Jonathan Clarke
Over here at Deal Pinch we exist to make peoples lives that much easier. It's pretty fulfilling to hear people speak nicely about our service. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Mathew French wrote: > To Help HR Professionals Manage thier employees more efficently and > effectively. So everyone can

Re: [SiliconBeach] Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Mathew French
To Help HR Professionals Manage thier employees more efficently and effectively. So everyone can be happier. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Trindaz wrote: > I'm interested generally in the thoughts of other founders in the > Sydney startup community. Why are you doing it? > > -- > You receive

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Dylan Jay
On 16/05/2011, at 1:45 PM, Geoff Langdale wrote: Another problem with the 'non-technical founder' is that sometimes the business may 'pivot' (cringe) away from the domain - or the part of it Just going to put it out there but my experience has been that a pivot is much more likely to be succ

[SiliconBeach] Re: Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Geoff Langdale
Reminds me of Jean-Louis Gassee's quote: "The romance of Silicon Valley was about money - excuse me, about changing the world, one million dollars at a time." Geoff. On May 16, 11:01 am, Ben Sand wrote: > To change the world. > > On Monday, 16 May 2011, Trindaz wrote: > > I'm interested genera

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Geoff Langdale
On May 16, 11:56 am, Trindaz wrote: > Just go and talk to some dentists. You don't need an entire person for > that. You're founding a company here, not doing a uni project. This will almost certainly fail, if your domain is suitably dentistry- intensive. "Talk to some dentists" doesn't work beca

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Matthew Ho
There are some good discussion threads about this on Hacker News and on Bothsidesofthetable blog. I've copied & pasted some of the relevant parts. 1. Both Sides of The Table Making Things Happen http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2009/11/19/what-makes-an-entrepreneur-four-lettersjfdi/ I said tha

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Zoho

2011-05-15 Thread Nick Holmes a Court (BuzzNumbers)
Be sure to try out Afffinity Live (Aussie Startup) http://www.affinitylive.com/ Which does a much better job than ZoHo does for intergrated CRM "AffinityLive is the first web-based platform to combine sales, projects, job tracking, issues, scheduling, resource utili

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
I agree. (I feel like I've just been handled my a master of diplomacy, but never the less I agree). On May 15, 7:04 pm, Daniel Purchas wrote: > No one is saying you're off the mark, just outlining that there are > advantages to both configurations, you have outlined that you think tech > guys who

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Daniel Purchas
No one is saying you're off the mark, just outlining that there are advantages to both configurations, you have outlined that you think tech guys who don't get involved in 'business' stuff shouldn't be founders which is where people are putting up counter statements I think this comes down to sema

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
Just go and talk to some dentists. You don't need an entire person for that. You're founding a company here, not doing a uni project. Companies founded by tech-only founders that address non-technical markets: Facebook (from original list!), HP (from original list! Their first product was an audio

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Dylan Jay
On 16/05/2011, at 11:41 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: And they have one thing in common: they target a technical market, so you already have the domain knowledge. If you wanted to offer a product for, say, dentists, you'd do well with a co-founder that knows many dentists and brings a willing

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
And they have one thing in common: they target a technical market, so you already have the domain knowledge. If you wanted to offer a product for, say, dentists, you'd do well with a co-founder that knows many dentists and brings a willing trial partner. Silvia. Sent from my iPhone On 16/05/2

[SiliconBeach] Re: Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
AWESOME! On May 15, 6:01 pm, Ben Sand wrote: > To change the world. > > > > > > > > On Monday, 16 May 2011, Trindaz wrote: > > I'm interested generally in the thoughts of other founders in the > > Sydney startup community. Why are you doing it? > > > -- > > You received this message because you

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
Daniel, I only need one example of a successful tech company with all tech founders to prove that the paradigm of "You gotta have a tech founder and a business founder" doesn't describe reality. 5 is generous. In startups that survive it only happens some of the time that 'business' tasks go exclu

[SiliconBeach] Re: Zoho

2011-05-15 Thread Mike Zimmerman
I was a big fan of ZOHO in our early days, and we were using a range of their Apps for free or very little $. As we've gotten bigger i'm gradually dropping the apps for what appear to be higher quality, paid versions of the same apps. For example, I'm still using ZOHO for CRM, but dropped the Z

Re: [SiliconBeach] Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Ben Sand
To change the world. On Monday, 16 May 2011, Trindaz wrote: > I'm interested generally in the thoughts of other founders in the > Sydney startup community. Why are you doing it? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach > Australia mailing list. > > Guide

[SiliconBeach] Why are you running your startup?

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
I'm interested generally in the thoughts of other founders in the Sydney startup community. Why are you doing it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach Australia mailing list. Guidelines on discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australi

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Daniel Purchas
Trindaz, this isn't a one size fits all sort of thing here is it? bringing up 5 companies doesn't set an absolute precedent? I'm sure there are many other companies out there that are of similar stature that aren't all pure tech founder driven I'm a non-technical co-founder, I can understand tech

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
Microsoft, HP, Facebook, Sun, Atlassian didn't need domain knowledge or networking with the 'right' people? They were founded by technical founders who didn't refuse to think outside the coding-only box. Networking and learning in a new domain are just more skills founders need and are learnable,

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Jeromy Evans
On May 16, 8:30 am, Trindaz wrote: > Technical founders don't need non-technical cofounders. Believing > otherwise is lazy, and won't make for a truly great tech company. This seriously undervalues what a *good* non-technical founder or adviser can bring to a company. It took me years (as an engi

[SiliconBeach] Re: Non-Technical Co Founders

2011-05-15 Thread Trindaz
Technical founders don't need non-technical cofounders. Believing otherwise is lazy, and won't make for a truly great tech company. Datapoints to support my claim off the top of my head: Microsoft, HP, Facebook, Sun, Atlassian. Counter-points which might mean I'm wrong: MySpace (I'd argue they we