Hi Jeremy,

Sure, so do I start a new post?

Perhaps I should extend on my role at American Express, as many just perceive 
it to be Credit Cards & Merchant Facilities.

First of all my business unit, which is similar to Amex Corporate Card, Small 
Business Card, Merchant, Consumer Card, Business Travel, is called GFES or 
Global Foreign Exchange Services. GFES encompasses all Foreign Exchange 
services offered by American Express, such as FXIP (Foreign Exchange 
International Payments), WCS (Wholesale Cash Services), Retail (Retail Cash 
Outlets), Prepaid (Amex Prepaid Global Travel Card).

My department, FXIP (Foreign Exchange International Payments) is a stand aside 
provider of International Funds Transfer, essentially normal bank transfers 
however they mostly involve making or receiving transfers where there is an 
exchange of currency. A typical scenario is that an Australian Business 
receives an Invoice from their supplier in China, who invoice in USD. The 
Australian Business would then use our services to buy USD and send a transfer 
to their supplier in USD. The other scenario, is that an Australian Business is 
supplying product overseas and invoices a European Client in EURO (not AUD), 
which they then would provide our EUR account details for their client to pay 
Amex EUR on the Aussie Businesses behalf, which upon receiving we would then 
convert to AUD and pay the AUD to the Aussie Business's account.

So more specifically, a payments platform which allows businesses to transact 
with foreign currencies.

In answer to your question:

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Now the legal part taken care of:

If we were to not look at products from any one company specifically, I would 
say that any Australian business looking to accept payments online from 
anywhere in the world would need:
1. Multiple-Currency Internet Merchant Facility
2. Multiple Currency/Foreign Currency Bank Accounts
3. Foreign Currency Conversion facilities
4. Local Bank Account

As far as the process is concerned, it would be something like this:

Your client purchases the your product on your website in USD using their 
Credit Card. The Multiple Currency Merchant Facility processes the USD charge 
to the Credit Card, which is then deposited into your Foreign Currency Bank 
Account. You would then use your Foreign Currency Conversion Facility to 
convert the USD in your Foreign Currency Bank Account and then into AUD, then 
deposit the AUD into your Local Bank Account.

As far as costs, you would come across the following:
1. Multiple Currency Merchant Facility, would charge a merchant fee (usually a 
% of the charge, & maybe a transaction fee)
2. Multiple Currency/Foreign Currency Bank Account, would charge a monthly fee, 
plus a transfer fee
3. Foreign Currency Conversion Facility, most will not have any fees, however 
will usually take a small margin on the conversion
4. Any fees and charges of your bank applied to your account. 

I hope that gives a bit of a 'how to', of course, you need to negotiate the fee 
& charge structures with each provider of the relevant product/services.

In my experience, not one company charges the same for every business/person, 
each business/person is able to negotiate a fee & charge structure specifically 
for themselves.


Darren Allatt | Business FX Consultant | International Payments
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Statements relating to the relevant financial product mentioned on this website 
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-----Original Message-----
From: silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeromy Evans
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 10:01 PM
To: Silicon Beach Australia
Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: Introduction

Hi Darren,

That's interesting. It would be helpful if you could share general
advice with *the list* about how a new Australian startup can accept
online USD credit card payment into an Australian business bank
account. Several people on this list have cracked the problem and
shared how they did it in thorough posts here. As far as I know, none
of the solutions involve AMEX FX.  If there's an AMEX solution
targeted to internet startups we don't know about yet then please
share it.

For scoping, the general solution needs to be start-up targeted:
potentially low transaction quantity (potential to scale up), low
month fees, low conversion fees. We're not looking for a product name/
brochure, but rather a "how to".  That would be an *awesome* resource.

regards,
Jeromy Evans
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromyevans

On May 31, 4:56 pm, "darren.p.all...@aexp.com"
<darren.p.all...@aexp.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
>
> A friend of mine, Lyndal Kennedy from Evanscorp in Woolongong NSW has
> referred me here to act as a resource for the members.
> My name is Darren Allatt and I am a Business Foreign Exchange
> Consultant at American Express FX International Payments.
>
> What I do is work with businesses where they need to pay or receive
> payments that involve foreign currencies. I work with them to minimize
> the cost of such as well as assist in making the process of
> transacting easier.
>
> I am qualified to provide GENERAL ADVICE on Foreign Exchange products
> in Australia and more than happy to answer any questions, and will
> provide you MY OPINION, of course each answer will include the
> appropriate disclaimers.
>
> You can contact me:
>
> Darren Allatt | Business FX Consultant | International Payments
> American Express International, Inc. | L7, 60 Union St Pyrmont NSW
> 2009
>
> Best Regards
>
> Darren

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