Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
just to add my two pixels: would agree completely with the fact that Bangalore is more accomodating than many other cities. On 12/14/05, Madhu M Kurup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 14:31 +0530, Nishant Shah wrote:> wasnt it? I mean, from somebody who has lived all around the cou

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Nishant Shah
Sigh...I do seem to have opened up a can of worms that I do not have the time to catch and sort right now. I am completely flooded with academic and professional and political demands right now and am going nuts juggling life. I know a lot of my opinions or expressions might be simply my own (that,

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Madhu M Kurup
On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 14:31 +0530, Nishant Shah wrote: > wasnt it? I mean, from somebody who has lived all around the country > for many years, Bangalore was and remains a more hostile place > resistant to me as an outsider. And I am not saying this as a poor > victim full of righteous indignation

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Gabin Kattukaran
On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 18:39 +0530, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: > My limited observation tells me that the Sena support is strong among > many Maharashtrians. If the Sena is rejected, what choice does a > Mumbaikar have? To watch mutely as the Bangaldeshis supported by the > Dawood and other sects

Re: [silk] bird photography

2005-12-13 Thread Subash Jeyan
true, but this guy does a reasonably great job of it: http://www.livejournal.com/users/yathin of course, you may already be familiar with his work. am hoping to get into it seriously myself once i get myself reasonably good equipment. :) subash On 12/14/05, Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [silk] bird photography

2005-12-13 Thread Gabin Kattukaran
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 09:22 +0530, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: > ...is bloody difficult. Couldn't agree more. I've managed to only one decent picture of a parakeet and that only because it was so busy feasting on a mango that it didn't seem to mind. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyntalist/73417440/

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread A. M. Merritt
On 12/12/05, Jessica Prabhakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Venkatesh Hariharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 12/12/05, Anil KUMAR > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I saw this Report on NDTV a short while ago. > > Chief Minister of Karnataka > > > > Dharam Singh has asked the S

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Biju Chacko
On 13/12/05, Vijay Kundaji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Bangalore was and remains a more hostile place resistant to me as an > >> outsider. > > Is this the experience of many others on this list? > > I (perhaps mistakenly) thought Bangalore was (at one time, at least) > a relatively easy place t

Re: [silk] bird photography

2005-12-13 Thread Sean Doyle
Those are great! Thanks! I've only taken a few of birds on my back porch - I don't have a long lens (a 70mm on my D70) but the main problem is exposure - the best ones look like your picture of the bee eater & the colors don't match what I see with my eye. Of course - I should just play with this

[silk] bird photography

2005-12-13 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
...is bloody difficult. http://toroid.org/birds/photo.html -- ams

[silk] Speaking of bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Manmohan Singh says "Calcutta" and "Madras" - and Reuters feels bound to explain what those are. > "In March or thereabouts we will throw open the expansion and > modernisation of Calcutta and Madras airports to public-private > partnerships," Singh said, giving no further details. > > Calcutta i

Re: [silk] [Fwd: [Consumer Voice India] Issues with Consumer Court at Bangalore]

2005-12-13 Thread Thaths
On 12/13/05, Madhu Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check this out. Unbelievable! I agree. Apparently, Kiran is neither a Kuvempu, not a Shakespeare. If this is his tenuous grasp of the English language, I shudder to imagine his Kannada. Thaths -- "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to

[silk] [Fwd: [Consumer Voice India] Issues with Consumer Court at Bangalore]

2005-12-13 Thread Madhu Menon
Check this out. Unbelievable! Original Message Subject: [Consumer Voice India] Issues with Consumer Court at Bangalore Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:23:11 + (GMT) From: kiran babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, Thi

Re: [silk] Silklist anniversary party this weekend?

2005-12-13 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: [ on 06:47 PM 12/13/2005 ] Are we ganging up at Jessie's place, then? Jessie, want to post directions? Any chance the meet can be held off to post Dec 26? Nothing wrong with holding *another* meet post Dec 26th, is there? Let's do the one this Saturday, and do anot

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
>>To watch mutely as the Bangladeshis supported by the Dawood and other sects troop in? Interested to know about your take on the Bangaladeshi context in Bombay also… Delhi anyway has a flourishing racket of fake identity cards for Bangladeshis: essentially money lubricates the slippages

Re: [silk] Silklist anniversary party this weekend?

2005-12-13 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 13-Dec-05, at 8:15 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Are we ganging up at Jessie's place, then? Jessie, want to post directions? Any chance the meet can be held off to post Dec 26? -Kiran, silk veteran 1998-2005, currently bumming in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia PS: The archives don't seem to have

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
>>If the Sena is rejected, what choice does a Mumbaikar have? as a thought-experiment. What would you have done if you were a Mumbaikar? in the 90s? Now?On 12/13/05, Srini RamaKrishnan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Udhay Shankar N wrote:> Are you claiming that the Shiv Sena is universally popular amo

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
Udhay Shankar N wrote: Are you claiming that the Shiv Sena is universally popular among Maharashtrians? This is not the impression I have. My limited observation tells me that the Sena support is strong among many Maharashtrians. If the Sena is rejected, what choice does a Mumbaikar have? To

Re: [silk] Silklist anniversary party this weekend?

2005-12-13 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that case can I join in too ? I am new to this list. > It would be nice to meet the other people on this list > in person. Sure. Are we ganging up at Jessie's place, then? Jessie, want to post directions? Udhay

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Vijay Kundaji
>> Bangalore was and remains a more hostile place resistant to me as an >> outsider. Is this the experience of many others on this list? I (perhaps mistakenly) thought Bangalore was (at one time, at least) a relatively easy place to migrate into (periodic loud identity/linguistic politically mot

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
>> Someone old enough can remember their attacks on the south indian establishment in the 80's if I am right. oh yes, and now Shiv Sena is trying to increase its presence in Karnataka...On 12/13/05, Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:On 12/13/05, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:>

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On 12/13/05, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Coming back to the topic, any event (like migration) is always met > > with resistance > > and hostility. The next step is assimilation. This is the reason why > > the Shiv sena is no longer "popu

Re: [silk] Silklist anniversary party this weekend?

2005-12-13 Thread Vinayak Hegde
> No probs. We're used to crowds.. and we have very > social (read no-objection) neighbours. :) > The 'no-cooking' is the seller!! But I make good > chocolate cake, and I can add that to the package. > > Jess In that case can I join in too ? I am new to this list. It would be nice to meet the othe

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Coming back to the topic, any event (like migration) is always met > with resistance > and hostility. The next step is assimilation. This is the reason why > the Shiv sena is no longer "popular" in Maharashtra. Maharashtrians > form a small percentage of

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On 12/13/05, Nishant Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No...let me rephrase and re-emphasise that. FLUENT Gujarati is not > something that comes easily to new generations anymore. While Gujarati > remains a functional language - the grammar structures will still be > retained, other languages cre

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
>>Only the very rich or the very 'cultured' speak it. so, curious to know,  what is the discursive world of these "cultured" denizens? what are their referents? is there a negotiation in their 'culture' with this very erosion that you speak of? or on a different (but kind of related) note have

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On 12/13/05, Jessica Prabhakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Umm..I think the crores that will go into renaming > everything.. from legal paperwork to what-have-you > could have been better used. > Bangalore is known internationally .. 'Bangalored' is > a widely-used phrase.. so now it'll be Bengal

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Nishant Shah
On 12/13/05, Abhishek Hazra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It was perhaps easier in a state like gujarat where the language got slowly eroded over fifty odd years...so much so that now fluent gujarati is a thing of privilege in the urban pockets. so in these urban pockets that you mention, none o

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
>> It was perhaps easier in a state like gujarat where the language got slowly eroded over fifty odd years...so much so that now fluent gujarati is a thing of privilege in the urban pockets. so in these urban pockets that you mention, none of the children ever study gujarati in school? even desu

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Abhishek Hazra
>>Any side-effects that the first half of the name spells Bengal?>> :-) that reminds me, even for the Calcutta renaming, the initiative was spearheaded by literature-wallahs, particualrly by Sunil Ganguly, the Ananthamurthy corresponding figure...

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Nishant Shah
Point. I never thought of the infrastructural demands it would require. I do remember the amount spent in Mumbai though when they started changing it all. That not withstanding, the move was desired and favoured by many, wasnt it? I mean, from somebody who has lived all around the country for many

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Jessica Prabhakar
Umm..I think the crores that will go into renaming everything.. from legal paperwork to what-have-you could have been better used. Bangalore is known internationally .. 'Bangalored' is a widely-used phrase.. so now it'll be Bengaloorued??? Any side-effects that the first half of the name spells B

Re: [silk] Silklist anniversary party this weekend?

2005-12-13 Thread Jessica Prabhakar
--- Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jessica Prabhakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Anybody want to volunteer their house? :-) > > > > > > Udhay > > > > If mine is conveniently located.. welcome! > > If you're indeed serious about the offer it > could be an option too. > Y

Re: [silk] Bangalore to be renamed Bengaluru

2005-12-13 Thread Nishant Shah
IMHO this has got nothing to do with either the progress or introjection of the city into the past. When shiv sena did it with Bombay, they too were playing the same politics. I think this is one of the last vestiges of the fact that Indian states were created on the basis of language...and now tha

Re: [silk] Silklist anniversary party this weekend?

2005-12-13 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Jessica Prabhakar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody want to volunteer their house? :-) > > > > Udhay > > If mine is conveniently located.. welcome! If you're indeed serious about the offer it could be an option too. You're located in Frazer Town, right? How would you/Joshua feel about ha