[silk] Further experiments with the Long Tail

2007-09-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Interesting, more than one reason. I've downloaded the first couple of books, will check them out. Udhay http://www.mayerbrenner.com/ This site is an experiment ... From 1987 through 1992, DAW Books published my four-book fantasy series, The Dance of Gods. Sales were not spectacular and fel

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 10 Sep 2007 10:05 am, Venky wrote: > Forgive me for a couple of naive questions - but just to clarify > things - are you actually okay with the government recording the > keystrokes of every person using a cyber cafe, and more > importantly, do you buy the argument that national security

Re: [silk] on a slight tangent

2007-09-09 Thread Deepak Misra
Works great ! Thanks Deepak On 9/7/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/7/07, Deepak Misra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My requirement is open FF if link clicked from thunderbird and open IE > if > > clicked from outlook > > Oh sorry. My bad. Why don't you set FF as your defau

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Venky
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 02:18:07PM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: > All the personal security measures that I mentioned cannot apply anyway in > cybercafes. Personal security does not exist in cybercafes with or without > government snooping. So why the angst? Anybody could snoop, even without > tel

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote [at 07:55 AM 9/10/2007] : Udhay can you educate me on how voting with your feet or taking them to a court in India can help if a Credit Card company employee spends Rs 100,000 on your credit card account and you get a bill 3 weeks later? Two things, which are interconnected:

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 10 Sep 2007 8:47 am, Amit Varma wrote: > Another important distinction, Shiv: I choose to associate with any credit > card company I deal with, and any risk I take is of my own volition. It is > not so with  the government. Sorry if I have have caused hurt and it is a pleasure to address

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Amit Varma
Another important distinction, Shiv: I choose to associate with any credit card company I deal with, and any risk I take is of my own volition. It is not so with the government. On 9/10/07, Amit Varma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Udhay can you educate me on how voting with your feet or taking t

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Amit Varma
> > Udhay can you educate me on how voting with your feet or taking them to a > court in India can help if a Credit Card company employee spends Rs > 100,000 > on your credit card account and you get a bill 3 weeks later? > Shiv, since I wrote that piece, permit me to do to answer this question. T

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Madhu Menon
Most of all, I can vote with my feet and use another company. (see the "accountability" bit in the quote above, which you've - doubtless for excellent reasons - not addressed in your rant) Now being discussed on Slashdot. http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/09/09/2011240.shtml -- <<< * >>>

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 10 Sep 2007 6:59 am, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > Credit card company employees are also going to > be tempted. However, I have some kind of > recourse, in their case. I can take them to > court, if I suspect that they are misusing my > details. I can create bad PR in the press for the compan

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 06:40 AM 9/10/2007 ] "The Mumbai police, like all police in India, consists of underpaid people given excessive powers over others, with little accountability. So how do you expect them to behave? Unless a policeman’s self-interest is perfectly aligned with the public

Re: [silk] Aircraft maintenance is a black art.

2007-09-09 Thread Madhu M Kurup
Udhay Shankar N wrote: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/06/asia/AS-ODD-Nepal-Airplane-Sacrifice.php This really gets my goat. [1] Cheerio, M [1] Surprised Udhay did say this first. -- Madhu M Kurup /* Nemo Me Impune Lacessit */ mmk222 at cornell dt edu

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 09 Sep 2007 9:13 pm, Eugen Leitl wrote: > There's an EU directive requiring all ISPs to log connection info > by law (it must become law 2008). This includes which IP > made which connection to which other IP at which time -- more > than enough noose to hang ya. Lovely. Lovely. In fact

Re: [silk] Aircraft maintenance is a black art.

2007-09-09 Thread Deepa Mohan
> A photograph published in the Kantipur newspaper earlier this week > showed the two goats sacrificed in front of the plane Sunday. The > photographer was detained for hours for taking photographs in a > restricted area. > Was the photographer also sacrificed? Definitely, safety norms have been..

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 09:00:00PM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: > Incidentally - someone somewhere and some years ago stated (to me, or in some > list/forum) that if ISPs in the US found that you were using P2P clients to > download MP3s regarded as copyrighted your illegal action could be reported

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 09 Sep 2007 5:06 pm, ashok _ wrote: > It wont be long before someone tries to legislate the same for a > private connection in > your home. Incidentally - someone somewhere and some years ago stated (to me, or in some list/forum) that if ISPs in the US found that you were using P2P clie

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 07:59 PM 9/9/2007 ] Everyone is pimping information, and the citizens of this world are cheerfully catering to those pimps. To my knowledge, my fingerprints are not yet of any official database. But they will get there sooner of later - when I apply for some kind of visa

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 07:59:10PM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: > Everyone is pimping information, and the citizens of this world are > cheerfully > catering to those pimps. To my knowledge, my fingerprints are not yet of any > official database. But they will get there sooner of later - when I ap

Re: [silk] Aircraft maintenance is a black art.

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
One hopes that the sacrifice was in conformity with ISO 9002 requirements shiv On Sunday 09 Sep 2007 6:53 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/06/asia/AS-ODD-Nepal-Airplane-Sacrif >ice.php > > Nepalese airline sacrifices goats to please gods, help repair airplane >

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 09 Sep 2007 5:06 pm, ashok _ wrote: > So what you are saying is that because there might be some unscruplous > cybercafe operators who might be pimping my personal information from a > cybercafe... its alright > for the government to pimp everyones information from every cybercafe >

[silk] Aircraft maintenance is a black art.

2007-09-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/06/asia/AS-ODD-Nepal-Airplane-Sacrifice.php Nepalese airline sacrifices goats to please gods, help repair airplane The Associated Press Published: September 6, 2007 KATMANDU, Nepal: Nepal's state run airline sacrificed two goats earlier this week, hoping i

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread ashok _
On 9/9/07, shiv sastry wrote: > In fact there is an element of irony in the complaint that cyber-cafes are > going to come under big brothers eye. A significant proportion of people > doing the complaining either do not use cyber cafes or will stop using them > henceforth and shift to what they con

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:21:05PM +0200, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote: > What a large-scale invasion of privacy. To top it all, India's most Tell that to the NSA. Or to the nitwits we call the local government, which are pushing for government malware, aka the bundestrojan. At the same time, outla

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 09 Sep 2007 1:49 pm, ashok _ wrote: > You are a brave man indeed. You must have utmost faith in the > competence of the police to handle such information. In fact there is an element of irony in the complaint that cyber-cafes are going to come under big brothers eye. A significant prop

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-09 Thread ashok _
On 9/9/07, shiv sastry wrote: > Does that make every one of > us cultural Nazis? > > One person's security is another man's breach of freedom. > > shiv You are a brave man indeed. You must have utmost faith in the competence of the police to handle such information.