Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread va
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:52 AM, ss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 09 Apr 2008 5:08:55 am divya manian wrote: Completely agree with this! I grew up with minimal toys not even the token robot or a barbie. Same here, it was more fun climbing trees, playing football or 'goti' (marbles)

[silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread ashok _
Hi, I am looking for examples where governments have developed their internal systems in an open source model. I can find plenty of examples where linux was deployed, and open source components were used (mysql, apache etc...), but few examples for whole systems which were open-sourced (for e.g.

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 08-Apr-08, at 9:53 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Just over a decade. As for tone, here's one message from almost exactly a decade ago, for purposes of comparision: http://netropolis.org/silklist/msg00349.html Jeepers! That site has landmines. I got hit by this one:

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Gautam John
And then there's this: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/04/nsas_linux.html On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Danese Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, NASA has a couple of viable open source projects. Also the Dept of the Navy in the US was a very early employer of Linux Kernel

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Badri Natarajan
The squeaky wheel gets the grease does NOT work with parents. The squeaky wheel is far more likely to get a couple of sharp, short whacks in the you-know-where. I got them, and admistered them in my turn. It depends on the parent, but I think more often than not, it is possible to make

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:08 PM, va [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:52 AM, ss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forces him to rub shoulders with children of parents who bow to every expensive tantrum their little devil has. Maybe its time i forgave my folks for not allowing me

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Biju Chacko
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08-Apr-08, at 9:53 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Just over a decade. As for tone, here's one message from almost exactly a decade ago, for purposes of comparision: http://netropolis.org/silklist/msg00349.html

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread va
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:52 AM, ss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forces him to rub shoulders with children of parents who bow to every expensive tantrum their little devil has. Maybe its time i forgave my folks for not allowing me to bring home an elephant (no space, i was told) after my first zoo

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
If I understood Ashok's question right, he is looking for Governments that have contributed back to Open Source, not just borrowed from it. There may be a few examples, however I don't know of any significant effort in this direction. Perhaps it's because Governments in general are used to taking

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
At a state level, ELCOT has done something of this sort in Tamil Nadu SuSE laptops distributed to bureaucrats (who probably all went and loaded pirated doze on top of it..) srs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ashok _ Sent:

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Danese Cooper
FWIW, NASA has a couple of viable open source projects. Also the Dept of the Navy in the US was a very early employer of Linux Kernel engineers and the NSF worked on a reliable version of Linux that proved it could be done. Danese On Apr 9, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: If I understood Ashok's question right, he is looking for Governments that have contributed back to Open Source, not just borrowed from it. Exactly...thats what i am looking for. There may be a few examples, however I don't know of

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread ss
On Wednesday 09 Apr 2008 3:09:07 pm Badri Natarajan wrote: . I think the quality of parenting is the key factor in any child's life, and I don't think that has changed all that much in the last 30 years... Make that 3000 years shiv

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
ss wrote: On Wednesday 09 Apr 2008 3:09:07 pm Badri Natarajan wrote: . I think the quality of parenting is the key factor in any child's life, and I don't think that has changed all that much in the last 30 years... Make that 3000 years Aren't there a number of studies that say the peer

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote, [on 4/10/2008 7:35 AM]: Aren't there a number of studies that say the peer group matters more than the parenting? Citations? Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents

2008-04-09 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
Udhay Shankar N wrote: Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote, [on 4/10/2008 7:35 AM]: Aren't there a number of studies that say the peer group matters more than the parenting? Citations? Can't recall at the moment. From some book in the last few months.

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Valsa Williams
Ministry of Comms IT 's venture called NRCFOSS - National resource center for FOSS, hosted by CDAC and Anna Univ have developed a distro for the Govt. called BOSS (Bharitiya Open Source Solutions) . This is now getting acceptance across Govt. They not only have a dedicated team working

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
One of NIC's applications has been placed in the public domain (I am not sure if it is in the GPL or another open source license) and has been downloaded by users in many other countries. Let me try to get more info on this. Regards, Venky On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Valsa Williams

Re: [silk] open source in government

2008-04-09 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Valsa Williams wrote: | This distro is Debian based/GNU, and has Open Office in local languages and | other apps. They have done upstream contribution to Open Office.org and | claim to have even contributed to Debian kernel. it would interesting