Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Bonobashi
Il Commendatore in Don Giovanni; the Statue of Charles V in Don Carlos (he appears in his own tomb-opening in the shape of a monk)? bonobashi --- On Wed, 10/9/08, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [silk] ask a silly question... T

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Sriram Karra
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you know it's a spoof? Which self-respecting telugu-movie watching "GoPaul" from Hyderabad will go looking for "Rassam" in New Jersey? -- Sriram Karra "You don't quit your job because you don't like it; you

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Madhu Menon [11/09/08 00:24 +0530]: Eh? No McD's that I've seen in B'lore has any waiters in bow ties. The one on brigade road used to have it, the last time I was there (admittedly - 2000 or so) Various other fast food chains (KFC, a malaysian McD clone called Marry Brown etc) in madras seem

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Charles Haynes
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget the plaid suitcases and the plastic mats which would be tied > around the boom-boxes. I have read accounts of Russian /Italian emigrants > also going back home with similar gifts. So I guess the phenomenon is pr

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread divyasampath
Cool thread, and you've already had some great examples. A few more things that come to mind: The Narasimha avatar from Hindu tradition, where a "man-lion" emerges out of a pillar. See link for the wiki version of the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narasimha There are a number of local tr

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Madhu Menon
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Yeah but the McDs in Hyderabad and Bangalore are in the swankiest part of town, with sit down service from waiters in bow ties. When a big mac Eh? No McD's that I've seen in B'lore has any waiters in bow ties. And that chicken maharaja mac is vile, disgusting cra

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Madhu Menon
Gautam John wrote: http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/sep/09uk.htm "Indian chefs will be allowed to work in Britain's multi-million pound Indian restaurant industry, but Indian IT workers are no longer required in the UK, a key government committee on immigration said on Tuesday." Yippee! Now i

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Is this different from the migrant labor in the middle east? In the > late 70's early 80's my second cousins would visit from their > slightly-white-collar jobs in the middle east with suitcases loaded > with bic pens, nylon t-shirts and ABBA and Boney-M cassette tapes. And here's the mallu in t

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thaths wrote: > Is this different from the migrant labor in the middle east? In the > late 70's early 80's my second cousins would visit from their > slightly-white-collar jobs in the middle east with suitcases loaded > with bic pens, nylon t-shirts and ABBA and Boney-M cassette tapes. Not very.

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
On 9/10/08, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a book and there is a > page where I am quoting examples of myth, legend, folklore, fairy tales, > fiction or whatever where a picture or a statue or an "idol" or an "icon" > turns into

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Thaths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They stay six or seven to a small apartment, cook in the apartment, save > a > > lot - I mean a lot - of a salary that's already pretty low,

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Nishant Shah wrote: I was just going through all the suggestions and making punctilous notes when I suddenly realised that nobody has mentioned Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. I mean, surely, the book that has now reached such a cult status about an inanimate object created by a

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They stay six or seven to a small apartment, cook in the apartment, save a > lot - I mean a lot - of a salary that's already pretty low, and then go > back home loaded with gadgets bought from the nearest best buy,

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > >> Any other examples? Also from different cultures? > now that i remember... there is the story of lwanda magere among the luo in western kenya... lwanda magere was a warrior made of stone.. he was able to help his tribe defeat all the n

Re: [silk] ask a silly question... (thanks)

2008-09-10 Thread Lawnun
> > Also i recall this interesting Dr.Who episode where the aliens look > like stone statues... and move only when not being looked at > directly... (only when you blink...) > Great minds ... That was the first one that came to mind for me while I was riding on the metro this morning. Wikipedia s

Re: [silk] On Obama's Chances

2008-09-10 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Dave Kumar wrote: On that note, for all those US citizen expats on silklist who are not registered to vote, please see the message below and (1) register to vote, and (2) cast your absentee ballot!! And be mindful of the deadlines. There are only a few weeks left to act or you could miss th

Re: [silk] ask a silly question... (thanks)

2008-09-10 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gosh... I'm overwhelmed. > > I am getting many more suggestions than I can fit into one or two > paragraphs, but if anyone has any other ideas please keep going. It's all > very interesting and maybe I can write someth

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Giancarlo Livraghi wrote, [on 9/10/2008 5:14 PM]: > Any other examples? Also from different cultures? Have you seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_golems ? Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] ask a silly question... (thanks)

2008-09-10 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi
Gosh... I'm overwhelmed. I am getting many more suggestions than I can fit into one or two paragraphs, but if anyone has any other ideas please keep going. It's all very interesting and maybe I can write something separately, getting more specifically into the subject. Deepa wrote: > Gianca

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Charles Haynes [11/09/08 00:48 +1100]: "My colleagues told me visit Mac Donalads for Lunch and dinner. Is it cheap?" Even in Hyderabad they have McDonalds. Yeah but the McDs in Hyderabad and Bangalore are in the swankiest part of town, with sit down service from waiters in bow ties. When a big

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Badri Natarajan
> > This article talks about a Parliamentary report on immigration released a > few days ago - very interesting look at the political climate around > immigration in the UK and the general perception of it (the comments are > perhaps even more interesting than the article). Duh. I just realized I

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 04:50:01PM +0300, ashok _ wrote: > There is the famous poem by alexander pushkin... called 'the bronze > horseman' It's actually copper, but bronze is close enough, I guess. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl http://leitl.org ___

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread ashok _
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a book and there is a > page where I am quoting examples of myth, legend, folklore, fairy tales, > fiction or whatever where a picture or a statue or an "idol" or an

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Charles Haynes
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you know it's a spoof? My bullshit detector was climbing as a I read it, but it pegged at this: "My colleagues told me visit Mac Donalads for Lunch and dinner. Is it cheap?" Even in Hyderabad they have McDonal

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote, [on 9/10/2008 4:53 PM]: >> This one had me rolling on the floor. >> >> Need some urgent Tips to save maximum per diem for my US visit . >> by aslam kuppusamy on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM > > Jeez, it's a spoof but it cuts WAY too close to home How do you know it's a spo

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Nishant Shah
I was just going through all the suggestions and making punctilous notes when I suddenly realised that nobody has mentioned Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. I mean, surely, the book that has now reached such a cult status about an inanimate object created by a mad doctor and brought to life, should be

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Abhishek Hazra
well, this is not exactly 'inanimate' coming to life but how about Borges short story 'The Circular Ruins' which meditates on the possibility that an apparently real, flesh and blood human being could be an unreal/ virtual entity - just a presence in a dream dreamt up by someone else.. the story i

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Sajith T S
Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any other examples? Also from different cultures? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahalya -- I've laid out in my will that my heirs should continue working on my .emacs -- johnw

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Brian McNett
In the Greek tale of Jason and the Argonauts, among others, skeletal warriors sprung up from the teeth of the monster, Gorgon, when they were planted in the ground. Sent from my iPhone! Huzzah! On Sep 10, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This isn't really a si

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
The story of the sage Agastya who battled two demons Ilwala and Vatapi, one of whom would cook the other as a meal for a guest and at his call, the other would come alive again, obviously killing the guest..Agastya just digested the demon who could not take shape again ...but on second thought, th

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a book and there is a > page where I am quoting examples of myth, legend, folklore, fairy tales, > fiction or whatever where a picture or a statue or an "idol" or an

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a book and there is a > page where I am quoting examples of myth, legend, folklore, fairy tales, > fiction or whatever where a picture or a statue or an "idol" or a

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Charles Haynes
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a book and there is a > page where I am quoting examples of myth, legend, folklore, fairy tales, > fiction or whatever where a picture or a statue or an "idol" or a

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Nishant Shah
Edith Nesbit's iconic book "The Enchanted Castle" had the horrible and fearsome uggly wugglies - stuffed caricatures and scarecrows coming to life. Of course the entire book is replete with how, in the night, statues, mythical gods and goddesses and Olympians come to life for whoever wears the ring

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Ganesha. According to one legend, he was created from sandal paste > applied on Parvati's arms, and subsequently animated by her. The elephant head > came later. Other instances too .. asuras (demons) being formed out of sweat (andhaka, from the sweat dripping off parvati's brow when shiva came

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Sumant Srivathsan
Ganesha. According to one legend, he was created from sandal paste applied on Parvati's arms, and subsequently animated by her. The elephant head came later. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Giancarlo Livraghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a boo

Re: [silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Harry Potter, the final battle where the armor pieces in Hogwarts get animated into knights? :) There's random stuff like you describe in the Arabian Nights, and in various other eastern folklore. srs > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

[silk] ask a silly question...

2008-09-10 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi
This isn't really a silly question. I am working on a book and there is a page where I am quoting examples of myth, legend, folklore, fairy tales, fiction or whatever where a picture or a statue or an "idol" or an "icon" turns into a "living" person or some sort of "real thing". Obviously Pyg

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
> This one had me rolling on the floor. > > Need some urgent Tips to save maximum per diem for my US visit . > by aslam kuppusamy on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM Jeez, it's a spoof but it cuts WAY too close to home I was going through customs in SFO when the guy there asked me if I was carrying any pic

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Badri Natarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> immigration in the UK and the general perception of it (the comments are >> perhaps even more interesting than the article). > > This one had me

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Gautam John
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Badri Natarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > immigration in the UK and the general perception of it (the comments are > perhaps even more interesting than the article). This one had me rolling on the floor. Need some urgent Tips to save maximum per diem for my US

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Badri Natarajan
> > "The revised list includes skilled chefs, secondary school teachers of > maths and sciences, consultants and senior specialist nurses, some > engineering occupations, including civil and chemical engineers." > Note that the list does NOT include doctors who come over to practice as GPs (Gener

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Sumant Srivathsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be rejected. Or art. Definitely not advertising. Aren't fashion magazines part art, part advertising, the ultimate informercials? The question remains, would it be offensive? I think the difference between w

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Sumant Srivathsan
That would be rejected. Or art. Definitely not advertising. Imagine this layout - a starving man of skin and bones with sunken > hollows for eyes holding up Beluga caviar heaped on a silver tray. > Would that be offensive? Or merely aspirational advertising? -- Sumant Srivathsan http://sumants.

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Sumant Srivathsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > [...] > > What, specifically, did you find problematic? To be honest, I find > > Imagine this layout - a starving man of skin and bones

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
> > Can you consult? > > > > I know nothing about consulting. I think I can. Neither do most other "consultants". srs

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you consult? > I know nothing about consulting. I think I can. C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.linkedin.com/in/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ +91-9884467463

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/sep/09uk.htm > > "Indian chefs will be allowed to work in Britain's multi-million pound > Indian restaurant industry, but Indian IT workers are no longer > required in the UK, a key governmen

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Gautam John
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did they say anything about poor, overworked, underpaid copywriters? Can you consult? "The revised list includes skilled chefs, secondary school teachers of maths and sciences, consultants and senior spec

Re: [silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/sep/09uk.htm > > "Indian chefs will be allowed to work in Britain's multi-million pound > Indian restaurant industry, but Indian IT workers are no longer > required in the UK, a key governmen

[silk] Send us your chefs, says the UK

2008-09-10 Thread Gautam John
http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/sep/09uk.htm "Indian chefs will be allowed to work in Britain's multi-million pound Indian restaurant industry, but Indian IT workers are no longer required in the UK, a key government committee on immigration said on Tuesday." -- Please read our new blog at: htt

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Sumant Srivathsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > What, specifically, did you find problematic? To be honest, I find Imagine this layout - a starving man of skin and bones with sunken hollows for eyes holding up Beluga caviar heaped on a silver tray. Would that

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > If you removed the captions, would you see anything more than villagers > dressed in their festival best? I couldn't. A few fashion designers are going to be a tad upset to discover that their products didn't st

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Were these men and women who modeled for the shoot actually paid at vogue rates? If they were paid what Katrina Kaif or Gisele Bundchen get paid .. maybe we should campaign for that, eh? srs > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Supriya Nair
*What, specifically, did you find problematic? * The anonymity of the subjects [to be fair, fashion mags often do keep the names of models in shoots anon, but I dislike the practice, and it seems more intolerable in cases where models aren't pros, like here] and didn't think there was any effectiv

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > If you removed the captions, would you see anything more than villagers > dressed in their festival best? I couldn't. Especially as India isn't really immune to the "fake rolex" syndrome..

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Sumant Srivathsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > What, specifically, did you find problematic? To be honest, I find > absolutely nothing wrong with aspiration-oriented advertising. This > photoshoot, if anything, fails to make its point because of the obvious > financ

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Supriya Nair
Just saw this message. I've been keeping tabs on this story and have noticed the way it's travelled across the papers in the English-speaking developed world - last I checked The Guardian, The Times, The Independent, and The International Herald Tribune [who syndicated from NYT] were just some of t

Re: [silk] Vogue fashionableness

2008-09-10 Thread Sumant Srivathsan
> > I've seen the photoshoot [in the actual magazine] and did find it > problematic, but not singular. Small-town, attractively-unattractive > aspiration-oriented India is all over advertising. There is probably a > sizable monograph to be written on the varieties of Plucky Girls From The > Hinterl