Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread ss
This is a deliberate top post. Mahesh - while not denying the existence of all that you are talking about I am extremely cynical about any change in the short to medium term The phrase "short-to medium term" is selected deliberately by me. A person who has a child and has to held that thild the

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:36 AM, ss wrote: > > In any case your experiences with your son do not in any way repesent the > experience of the majority in the Indian education system. You are one of > the > elite who will bypass the system as long as possible. Shiv, the point isn't about being eli

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread ss
On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010 10:19:11 am Mahesh Murthy wrote: > The first ever exam that happens in his life will be the IGCSE / IB in the > 10th grade. And here is the IB policy on calculators: > Good for your son. In any case your experiences with your son do not in any way repesent the experienc

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Charles Haynes
I calculate square roots manually using Newton-Raphson even though I was "taught" the manual method, it's been entirely useless to me. However Newton-Raphson continues to be useful. I believe manual calculation of square roots to be a canonical example of "useless rote knowledge." -- Charles On

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Heather Madrone
On 10/5/10 9:01 PM October 5, 2010, ss wrote: Incidentally how many people on Silk can recall how to calculate the square root of a number manually? Not that I was a product of the Indian education system, but I can calculate a square root manually. It's not a particularly difficult proces

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Lahar Appaiah
It's not about what you learnt- the whole point of hiring people from a certain institute is that you are picking people who were good enough to get into that institute. By going to a top rated institute, you ensure you have a working method of getting access to the 'top of the gene pool'. On Wed,

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Sruthi Krishnan
Had read this in a friend's dissertation on the education system and this thread reminded me of it. I think it articulates pretty well what the malaise in the system is: "They school them to confuse process and substance. Once these become blurred, a new logic is assumed: the more treatment there

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > ss [06/10/10 09:31 +0530]: > > The question would then arise as to whether most of what is taught - and > learnt with anywhere from resentment to resigned impatience - is any use at > all beyond HR managers insisting on seeing academi

Re: [silk] Techno-literacy and its implications

2010-10-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ss [06/10/10 09:31 +0530]: Incidentally how many people on Silk can recall how to calculate the square root of a number manually? If you were taught in the first place. How many cooks need to know how to grow wheat or milk a cow? Or slaughter a cow for that matter? Having thrown my maths and