i heard this as a 'dialogue' in a movie i saw recently. and i completely
agree. LOTR is surely not for kids, it is strictly for geeks. no?
atlas and his shrugging is for atlas.
mere mortals should have filter kaffee.
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com
Ayn Rand is really terribly useful in the era of attention starvation:
As soon as you discover someone is an admirer, they can be safely
filtered from your input stream. -T
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Kunal Kapoor kunalkapoor1...@gmail.com wrote:
i heard this as a 'dialogue' in a movie i
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Kunal Kapoor kunalkapoor1...@gmail.com wrote:
LOTR is surely not for kids, it is strictly for geeks. no?
Define 'geek'? Or 'kid' for that matter?
Udhay (first encountered LotR and Rand in high school, disliked both on sight)
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well, i usually do not like to define things. but since the q was raised,
here it is ...
in my estimate,
geek = folks who thrive on thinking they are non mainstream
kid = less than 13 years of age, but thinks he/ she has the decision making
ability to come to an 'absolute conclusion'
On Wed,
On 8 August 2012 12:24, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
Udhay (first encountered LotR and Rand in high school, disliked both on sight)
I read them both in high school as well. I found Rand hard to read, as
you could see the point some 2000 words before she got there, but
slogged through
I've never read LOTR (by the way, IDLTA...I Don't Like These
Abbreviations), and I didn't read Ayn Rand until I was past my teens
(I have only liked the open-ended premise of Night of Janary 16th,
its concept that what is serious can also be entertaining, the two
are not mutually exclusive...
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On 08/08/2012 03:17 AM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
On 8 August 2012 12:24, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
Udhay (first encountered LotR and Rand in high school, disliked both on
sight)
I read them both in high school as well. I
I think we are reading too much into these works in politically correct
hindsight. There is no getting away from the fact that Sanders of the River
(and Major Hamilton, and Lt. Bones), Biggles, Bulldog Drummond - for that
matter, even Billy Bunter - were racist somewhere deep below, but this
Bonobashi [08/08/12 13:33 +0530]:
I think we are reading too much into these works in politically correct
hindsight. There is no getting away from the fact that Sanders of the
River (and Major Hamilton, and Lt. Bones), Biggles, Bulldog Drummond - for
that matter, even Billy Bunter - were racist
If you grew up in India in the 70s/80s and read comics (who didn't, we had
nothing else back then) then you will remember Tinkle. I bought the 600th
edition of the comic today, supposed to be a collector's edition. Well, I
can now happily say I have read the first and the 600th Tinkle. :-)
Udhay,
You are instantly my hero. Atlas Shrugged was bearable when you compare it
with its sibling The Fountainhead. My misspent youth included undue
admiration for architects whose reading habits unfortunately I chose to
emulate. Yuck...a bunch of self-congratulation all that reading.
Of course
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 12:47:58 pm Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
Tolkien was a tedious read too, but the Peter Jackson movies made them
watchable, unlike the Rand movies. I read the books again with my son,
and realised that I had missed the racism completely the first time.
I am re reading
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Damn you, now I’ll have to go and buy it too. Except that, without
Uncle
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
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On 8/8/12 8:36 AM August 8, 2012, ss wrote:
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 12:47:58 pm Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
Tolkien was a tedious read too, but the Peter Jackson movies made them
watchable, unlike the Rand movies. I read the books again with my son,
and realised that I had missed the racism
The racism is most obvious when you look at who are allies of The West'
[ahem] and who are allies of Sauron. Southrons in particular with their
elephants. The corsairs of umbar. all of the heros are pretty obviously
from the british isles, or at least northern europe. If you look at his
map of
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Subject: Re: [CCM-L] [silk] Shortage of medicines and control of
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 08:42:38PM +0200, Charles Haynes wrote:
The racism is most obvious when you look at who are allies of The West'
[ahem] and who are allies of Sauron. Southrons in particular with their
elephants. The corsairs of umbar. all of the heros are pretty obviously
from the
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
Also, the West is the best.
http://www.poetry-archive.com/w/facing_west_from_california's_shores.html
FACING WEST FROM CALIFORNIA'S SHORES
by: Walt Whitman (1819-1892)
FACING west from California's shores,
Inquiring,
Regarding the class system that Tolkien depicts, it was the fairly rigid class
system that still existed in his time which comes through without much
conscious effort. That is the way it was, and a look at Sir Nigel or The White
Company will tell us oodles more about it, again in spontaneous
FACING WEST FROM CALIFORNIA'S SHORES
by: Walt Whitman (1819-1892)
FACING west from California's shores,
Inquiring, tireless, seeking what is yet unfound,
I, a child, very old, over waves, towards the house of maternity, the land
of migrations, look afar,
Look off the shores of my Western
FACING west from California's shores,
Inquiring, tireless, seeking what is yet unfound,
I, a child, very old, over waves, towards the house of maternity, the land
of migrations, look afar,
Look off the shores of my Western sea, the circle almost circled;
For starting westward from
On Aug 9, 2012 8:38 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
FACING west from California's shores,
Inquiring, tireless, seeking what is yet unfound,
I, a child, very old, over waves, towards the house of maternity, the
land
of migrations, look afar,
Look off the shores of my Western sea,
In the USA it's all been about North versus South since 1845 or so.
jrs
On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Venkat Mangudi - Silk wrote:
So:
East is west and west is best.
Right?
On Thursday 09 Aug 2012 12:58:19 am Eugen Leitl wrote:
My question was: are there any regularly bodies which would enforce
production of medicines whihc are in short supply mostly because of
monopoly of brand leaders? ministry of health or any other controlling
authority?
This is a self
This is a self created problem. The short supply is local to Pakistan. There
is no short supply or brand monopoly for a distance of 2000 km, starting 100
km east of Islamabad. If those local controlling bodies do not exist in
Pakistan, they must be set up in Pakistan to break monopolies and
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:48 AM, John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com wrote:
In the USA it's all been about North versus South since 1845 or so.
Surely the USA is not the only country where the northies look down on
the southies?
Deepa.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote:
If the medicines are so much in demand and so ridiculously cheap in
India, isn't there already a flourishing black market in Pakistan for
them?
Your favorite gods of the market are to blame here too, you know. If
one
On Thursday 09 Aug 2012 8:58:18 am Deepak Shenoy wrote:
If the medicines are so much in demand and so ridiculously cheap in
India, isn't there already a flourishing black market in Pakistan for
them?
The smuggling of drugs and automobile tyres from India to Pakistan occurs via
Dubai. The
On Aug 9, 2012 8:48 AM, John Sundman j...@wetmachine.com wrote:
In the USA it's all been about North versus South since 1845 or so.
In India, it is similar. North vs south is a recurring theme for jokes.
--venkat
As a USian 'northie' myself, I certainly feel myself to be the object of
resentment and a desire to be reckoned with by the 'southies'. For example, I
have a cousin who lives in South Carolina and self-identifies as a southerner
who never tires of trying to bait me on Facebook, and so forth.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:40 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 09 Aug 2012 8:58:18 am Deepak Shenoy wrote:
If the medicines are so much in demand and so ridiculously cheap in
India, isn't there already a flourishing black market in Pakistan for
them?
The smuggling of drugs and
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:03:46 +0530
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Oh well .. the northies have their own share of jokes targeted at
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com
wrote:
Read this today:
There are two novels that can transform a bookish 14-year-kld’s life:
The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish daydream
that can lead to an emotionally stunted, socially
in Canada, the south means the US and southerners are Americans. their
feelings toward Americans range the gamut between sanctimoniousness and
servility.
Within the country there certainly are divides such as:
1. the rest of the country and Alberta (= Texas)
2. the rest of the country and
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