Re: [silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT)

2010-10-27 Thread Lahar Appaiah
This is thrilling stuff, indeed. This extract is delightful in its anguished innocence. But some problems remain problems. The Indians, whom Queen Victoria once called "a nation of clerks" retain paralyzing bureaucracy. I encountered it on arrival. None of my hosts had bothered to tell me that ent

Re: [silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT)

2010-10-27 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 27 October 2010 15:01, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > Both the description of the trip itself by said individual, and the > vigorous argument it provoked on this list, are entertaining. [1] Do you actually remember _every_ single discussion on silk? I had forgotten when exactly he had come. From th

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2010-10-27 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 26-Oct-10 5:12 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: > About ten years ago, my then employer, a large telco, asked me to > organise a series of lectures by "tech celebrities" to publicise the > launch of a new ISP. I duly invited one such celebrity, a US citizen, > and worked out dates and terms and

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2010-10-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Gautam John [26/10/10 20:47 +0530]: (which, for indian citizens at least, needs an affidavit sealed by a notary public) Really? I applied for an Argentine visa last year in Bombay and it was painless. And because I was going for a conference, they gave it to me gratis. Delhi, and the semi lit

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2010-10-26 Thread Gautam John
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > And clearly hasn't applied for a US visa. Or maybe one from Argentina > (which, for indian citizens at least, needs an affidavit sealed by a > notary public) Really? I applied for an Argentine visa last year in Bombay and it was pa

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2010-10-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Biju Chacko [26/10/10 20:40 +0530]: In fact the most annoying part of the process is the ridiculous attitude of my Dad's travel agents. They seem to think any visa application should be handled as if they were sending a newly graduated software engineer working for a shady bodyshopper to the US o

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2010-10-26 Thread Biju Chacko
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Ingrid wrote: > I've had to get 9 new visas this year. I find that the key difference > between those that are onerous and not is the clarity and specificity of the > necessary documents and procedures, not the quantum and detail of > information required. The only

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2010-10-26 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Badri Natarajan wrote: > > Indeed. Once when I was a kid (1991), I was flying to New York with my > father. We transited through Heathrow and went through security again and > the security officer found a large wooden knife in my baggage. > Halcyon, indeed. Anja

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2010-10-26 Thread Badri Natarajan
On Tue 26/10/10 12:57 PM , Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com sent: > On 26 October 2010 17:19, Badri Natarajan om> wrote:> > > Nowadays airlines check visas of everyone > boarding a plane to most countries because otherwise the government of the > country in which the plane lands will

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2010-10-26 Thread salil tripathi
Carrier's liability is an old piece of legislation, dating to pre-9/11 times, and European and Asian airlines have routinely checked visas before people board, to keep out asylum seekers/refugees. Each non-visa-carrying passenger not given entry costs the airline something like $3000 the last ti

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2010-10-26 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 26 October 2010 17:19, Badri Natarajan wrote: > > Nowadays airlines check visas of everyone boarding a plane to most countries > because otherwise the government of the country in which the plane lands will > impose a fine for allowing someone to get on the plane without checking their > vis

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2010-10-26 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 26 October 2010 14:18, Mahesh Murthy wrote: > If it gives you any consolation, I (an Indian citizen resident in India) am > in the process of renewing my US visit visa. > The cost is higher, the form is longer, the questions are more onerous and If you have a problem with the form, pray that y

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2010-10-26 Thread Badri Natarajan
On Tue 26/10/10 12:42 PM , Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com sent: > On 26 October 2010 14:55, Sriram Karra .com> wrote: > > This guy appears spoiled from not having to fill > out too many visa> applications. > > > The guest hadn't bothered getting a visa because as a US citizen, >

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2010-10-26 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 26 October 2010 14:55, Sriram Karra wrote: > This guy appears spoiled from not having to fill out too many visa > applications. About ten years ago, my then employer, a large telco, asked me to organise a series of lectures by "tech celebrities" to publicise the launch of a new ISP. I duly in

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2010-10-26 Thread Badri Natarajan
On Tue 26/10/10 12:19 PM , Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com sent: > I have heard applying for Brazil visa is also painful for US citizens. > @timbray care to comment ? I believe Brazil is one of the few places that practices fairly strict reciprocity in terms of visas (most countries don't).

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2010-10-26 Thread Vinayak Hegde
I have heard applying for Brazil visa is also painful for US citizens. @timbray care to comment ? -- Vinayak On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > On Tue, October 26, 2010 2:05 pm, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Somehow he doesn't sound too happy... ;) > > And clearly hasn't a

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2010-10-26 Thread Badri Natarajan
On Tue 26/10/10 9:40 AM , Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net sent: > On Tue, October 26, 2010 2:05 pm, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Somehow he doesn't sound too happy... > ;) > And clearly hasn't applied for a US visa. Or maybe one from Argentina > (which, for indian citizens at least, needs a

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2010-10-26 Thread anilkumar . nagaraj
irtel -Original Message- From: Deepak Misra Sender: silklist-bounces+anilkumar.nagaraj=gmail@lists.hserus.net Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:30:28 To: Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT) On Tue, Oct 26, 2010

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2010-10-26 Thread Deepak Misra
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sriram Karra wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > >> find. Then the actual application is something like five pages long, >> designed like an application to be a nuclear engineer and requiring >> simply useless information that's time

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2010-10-26 Thread Ingrid
> > This guy appears spoiled from not having to fill out too many visa > applications. Good for him, though. > > UK visa application form was 21 pages not too long back; More recently it > is down at about 10 pages for many categories. Ofcourse he can argue about > the 'nuclear engineer skills' re

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2010-10-26 Thread Sriram Karra
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > find. Then the actual application is something like five pages long, > designed like an application to be a nuclear engineer and requiring > simply useless information that's time and labor intensive to figure > out. This guy appears spoil

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2010-10-26 Thread Mahesh Murthy
> > > > Not that the Indian Embassy didn't try their hardest to blow it. If it gives you any consolation, I (an Indian citizen resident in India) am in the process of renewing my US visit visa. The cost is higher, the form is longer, the questions are more onerous and after my (usually highly ef

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2010-10-26 Thread Vijay Anand
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > On Tue, October 26, 2010 2:05 pm, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> Somehow he doesn't sound too happy... ;) > > And clearly hasn't applied for a US visa. Or maybe one from Argentina > (which, for indian citizens at least, needs an affidavit sea

Re: [silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT)

2010-10-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, October 26, 2010 2:05 pm, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Somehow he doesn't sound too happy... ;) And clearly hasn't applied for a US visa. Or maybe one from Argentina (which, for indian citizens at least, needs an affidavit sealed by a notary public) I just suppose he's lucky that someone in the I

[silk] Fwd: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT)

2010-10-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
Somehow he doesn't sound too happy... ;) From: crip...@pitt.edu Reply-to: cc...@list.pitt.edu To: cc...@list.pitt.edu Sent: 10/25/2010 2:04:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: [CCM-L] Looks pretty good for me coming to Chennai (OT) Not that the Indian Embassy did