On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 12:46:20PM +0200, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> someone still has to be at home to give them the midday meal! anyway,
> switzerland, which gave women the vote in 1974, is hardly a great
> example of policies to support equal opportunities for women.
Strange; whenever I compa
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 19:14 +0200, Dave Long wrote:
> Now, in Switzerland, the kids are expected to walk themselves back
> and forth for the mid day meal.
someone still has to be at home to give them the midday meal! anyway,
switzerland, which gave women the vote in 1974, is hardly a great
exa
i didn't say expensive childcare was important, but social
treatment of
women which may or may not involve state support. women in germany are
treated badly both by society and the state. (e.g. the tax system
favours non-working married women; the school system requires a parent
to pick up the k
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 10:38:02PM +0200, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 11:00 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > Notice that France largely profits from high birth rate in the black
>
> this sounds like the mythical nonsense of neo-con eurabia. while france
http://en.wikipedia.org/
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 12:08:05AM +0200, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> eventually, market forces will result in older people becoming more
Eventually, I'm dead, and no longer care. Meanwhile, market forces
continue to approach UHV.
> employable. right now, there are too many younger people around
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 13:24 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Already 50-year olds are virtually unemployable in the modern
> economy, while the official retirement age has been bumped up
> to 67 years. It will be 70 soon, so how do you feed a large
> fraction of your populace clothed, fed, and in good h
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 11:00 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Notice that France largely profits from high birth rate in the black
this sounds like the mythical nonsense of neo-con eurabia. while france
does not collect figures on race and religion, assuming a 10% non-white
population [1], and assuming
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 09:47 +0100, B. L. Krieger wrote:
> i guess you are right here. france for instance made a deliberate choice
> after the second world war to recruit women to the labout force, whereas
> germany decided for an immigration policy. however whether there is a
> correlation is n
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 07:24:53AM -0700, Radhika, Y. wrote:
> Bernhard, on a light note upon being told of the Austrian right wing
> politician Haider, whose slogan was Kinder nicht Inder referring to the need
That slogan is still very much alive in Germany. There's a considerable
misconception
If you consider venezuela or ethiopia with respect to indian states
like punjab or
tamil nadu...(population-wise) i think the issue of and adverse impact
of brain drain is
very relevant.
I see a lot of old parents living alone in tamil nadu, whose children
are abroad...with some worries about who
Bernhard, on a light note upon being told of the Austrian right wing
politician Haider, whose slogan was Kinder nicht Inder referring to the need
for Kids not Indians, I responded that on the contrary it should be Inder
then definitely Kinder! I was joking...immigration from INdia with a large
popu
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:13:16PM +0100, B. L. Krieger wrote:
> >the key is the rapidity of the change.
>
> true, but still till these effects stop worldwide population growth new
> factors will arise (continous age increase, alternative methods of
It is not obvious SENS is going to work. It
On Aug 8 2007, Eugen Leitl wrote:
For time being (are you sure about Brazil?).
thought that i have read that somewhere though the cia factbook states 1.88
for brazil.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-repla
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 10:36:06AM +0100, B. L. Krieger wrote:
> don't quite understand that. countries like india or brazil have a
> reproduction rate higher than sustainable for these countries. whereas in
For time being (are you sure about Brazil?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replace
On Aug 8 2007, Eugen Leitl wrote:
maybe reproduction is overrated? immigration would be by far cheaper and
more sustainable on a global scale.
Immigration is completely unsustainable. The developing countries will
be much harder hit by the birth rate reduction, because they'll be
experiencing
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 09:47:36AM +0100, B. L. Krieger wrote:
> i guess you are right here. france for instance made a deliberate choice
> after the second world war to recruit women to the labout force, whereas
> germany decided for an immigration policy. however whether there is a
> correlat
On Aug 7 2007, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
note that the highest birthrates in europe are in societies where
opportunities for women have been matched by their social treatment,
such as scandinavia and to some extent france (where state or employer
childcare is of a relatively high standard). in s
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 09:09 +0530, shiv sastry wrote:
> But, as Eugen has pointed out, birth rates have fallen in such societies for
> various reasons. I am guessing that birth rates will fall among the subset of
> Indians who belong to the IT sector but continue to remain high among others.
not
I agree that ensuring family wealth is a big factor in societies
keeping . And here I am speculating but I see the mergence of both a
narrowing and a broadening of the term family. Being outside the IT
world but having spent many an afternoon eavesdropping on IT
professionals on Brigade Road while
2007/8/5, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Monday 06 Aug 2007 2:06 am, Radhika, Y. wrote:
> > We Indians are highly goal focused rather
> > than process oreinted-I suspect that old fashioned contempt for dating also
> > has to do with intolerance for ambiguity and low risk tolerance ather than
On 8/6/2007 8:32 AM, shiv sastry wrote:
>> Homer goes to India
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_P_BpGncKQ
>>
>> shiv
>
> Whooops - sorry wrong cartoon
> This one
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9_iQim8Mtw
>
Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore. yup .. good one that.
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