On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 17:31, Deepa Mohan wrote:
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>> Err..I'm not sure who you're talking about? I was talking about the guy in
>> the article who warns off the NYT reporter saying that he will complain to
>> her superiors...
Ah Badri, you were replying to me recounting the Indian floss experie
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Mahesh Murthy wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote:
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> Gee Deepa, you've gone from saying "let's say nothing bad about anything",
> to "let's say nothing ab
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote:
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> let's NOT talk about any particular people,
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Gee Deepa, you've gone from saying "let's say nothing bad about anything",
to "let's say nothing about anybody".
Darn, this forum, and by extension, the internet and the entire p
Deepa Mohan [01/12/09 17:31 +0530]:
Err..I'm not sure who you're talking about? I was talking about the guy in
the article who warns off the NYT reporter saying that he will complain to
her superiors...
I am also uncomfortable with this kind of "sub-text" references to any
particular person. .
>
> indeed having a spouse of another culture makes any "return" to india
> complicated. our first criterion is that Mike should be able to find good
> work in landscape architecture (assuming that I will as well!). also where
> we return to work in India is an issue. overall i find it freeing to a
>
> Err..I'm not sure who you're talking about? I was talking about the guy in
> the article who warns off the NYT reporter saying that he will complain to
> her superiors...
>
I am also uncomfortable with this kind of "sub-text" references to any
particular person. the point is (as has just
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 19:29, Badri Natarajan wrote:
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>> True, but hardly restricted to India. This guy mostly stands out for
>> being
>> clumsy about it.
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> ...clumsy? as in, lying and pretending to be a woman on a woman-only
> list (which is neither new nor surprising) to dig into their pe
ss wrote:
> On Monday 30 Nov 2009 5:45:06 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
>> Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
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> And some Indians find it easy.
I came back home after a decade, not just in the US but various other
places. It's been three years and I am enjoying every minute of it. Yes,
i
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
wrote:
> Your dad was in the army and you weren't a KV brat? That kind of situation
> is just why every single armed forces base had a KV onsite, plus at least
> one other school, quite often .. both of which would be quite understanding
> a
ashok _ [01/12/2009 3:15 PM]:
The biggest stress for my folks was
getting school admissions as sometimes we moved during the middle of
the school year. Most of my childhood memories revolve around writing
school entrance exams or packing things into boxes.
Your dad was in the army and you weren
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as
>> relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids?
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> When you've relocated once or twice, it gets easier with time.
> Kids have it easier, if anything.
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I do agree
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:02:28AM +0530, ashok _ wrote:
> You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as
> relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids?
When you've relocated once or twice, it gets easier with time.
Kids have it easier, if anything.
--
Eugen*
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 02:43, Kiran K Karthikeyan
wrote:
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> The reasoned argument was dig in and solve the problem instead of
> complaining/quitting/swimming against the tide from the word go.
As an Indian-Born-Confused-Desi I'm curious to know how one would "dig
in and solve the problem" when s
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 19:29, Badri Natarajan wrote:
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> True, but hardly restricted to India. This guy mostly stands out for being
> clumsy about it.
...clumsy? as in, lying and pretending to be a woman on a woman-only
list (which is neither new nor surprising) to dig into their personal
lives
You relocated and during your childhood. You think thats the same as
relocating when you are an adult or when you have kids?
On 12/1/09, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
> 2009/11/30 Srini RamaKrishnan
>
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>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/business/global/28return.html?_r=1&src=tw&pagewanted=all
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan
wrote:
> 2009/12/1 Thaths
>> Could we have more reasoned arguments than the likes of "Put up or
>> shut up", "You call yourself Indian?!" and "Go back to Massachusetts,
>> Wuss!"?
> The reasoned argument was dig in and solve the problem instead
2009/12/1 Radhika, Y.
> when you phrase it as an exhortation to participate
This is what I was trying to say with "For every repat that rants, there is
one that digs in, and contributes without cribbing".
Its interesting how you picked up the bit of my post most easy to counter
and devoted you
when you phrase it as an exhortation to participate it is more reasonable
than the previous attempt to merely shut down the conversation.
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> Is asking those who crib and quit to rather participate and solve the
> problem categorized as being extremely nationalist?
>
> Kiran
>
2009/12/1 Radhika, Y.
> Kiran's rant is reminiscent of Reagan era America when jingoism was at its
> peak. I guess that language transcends cultures!
>
Is asking those who crib and quit to rather participate and solve the
problem categorized as being extremely nationalist?
Kiran
2009/12/1 Thaths
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan
> wrote:
> > Please, do us a favor, stay where you are and don't come back. For every
> > repat that rants, there is one that digs in, and contributes without
> > cribbing. If you still insist on coming back, please underst
Kiran's rant is reminiscent of Reagan era America when jingoism was at its
peak. I guess that language transcends cultures!
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Kiran K Karthikeyan
wrote:
> Please, do us a favor, stay where you are and don't come back. For every
> repat that rants, there is one that digs in, and contributes without
> cribbing. If you still insist on coming back, please understand that just by
> you coming
2009/11/30 Srini RamaKrishnan
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/business/global/28return.html?_r=1&src=tw&pagewanted=all
>
> Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
>
I moved to the US when I was 11 and moved back when I was 16 and I've gone
back multiple times on business in the past 3
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
>> Returnees run into trouble when they “look Indian but think American,”
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> OMG, do I relate to this one.
>
I dont live in North America ... but I still feel the disconnect
everytime I fly from Nairobi into India.
The traffic is equal
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram <
r.sunda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/11/30 Deepa Mohan :
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> > that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face when
> trying
>
> May I submit that "repat" is derogatory, as it implies someone shipped
> home at the expense of
2009/11/30 Deepa Mohan :
> that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face when trying
May I submit that "repat" is derogatory, as it implies someone shipped
home at the expense of the GoI?
I propose "cowpat" instead.
Ram
. [30/11/09 18:47 +0530]:
corporate world or govt sector firms. The 'complain to
bosses/friends-up-there' intimidation tactics is my personal
experience within the Indian FLOSS community.
I suspect you simply ran across the same person a lot of us on this list
did. Next please?
srs
On Monday 30 Nov 2009 6:33:32 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> The US became home within 1 year of getting there. While India remains
> close to my heart, it remains elusive as "home" even after 4 years of
> trying to fit in.
It takes 10 years to become Indian.
shiv
On Monday 30 Nov 2009 5:45:06 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
And some Indians find it easy.
Big deal
shiv
>> would be interested in the situation, and then said he would complain
>> to a reporterâs bosses in New York if she continued to pursue the
>> story.
>
> ah, nothing new and the intimidation is not restricted to the
> corporate world or govt sector firms. The 'complain to
> bosses/friends-up-t
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 17:45, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
> - I agree.
>
[snip]
> would be interested in the situation, and then said he would complain
> to a reporter’s bosses in New York if she continued to pursue the
> stor
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
> - I agree.
I am quoting here the bits I definitely felt myself relating to.
> But a study by Mr. Wadhwa and other academics found that 34 percent of
> repats fou
behavior that would have got him fired just as
fast stateside as he was from csir.
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Badri Natarajan wrote:
> > t
> > t in their "home"
> > country.
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> I agree in general, but why the quotes? The US (or wherever) *is* the home
> country for those children - no wonder they find it hard to adapt
> (although I know several people who've made the tra
> to adjust to a very different set of circumstances, a whole new culture,
> that is often perceived as very restrictive, their inabliity to cope with
> the huge extended families that were never in the picture in their "home"
> country.
I agree in general, but why the quotes? The US (or wherever)
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
> I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
> - I agree.
>
> Cheeni
>
The article also does not mention a very major factor...the difficulties
that the children of the repats, born and raised in the US,face w
I have some thing in the way of personal experience here, and so I say
- I agree.
Cheeni
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/business/global/28return.html?_r=1&src=tw&pagewanted=all
Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again
By HEATHER TIMMONS
Published: November 27, 2009
NEW DELHI — When 7-ye
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