Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread ss
On Tuesday 01 Dec 2009 10:57:25 pm Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > Indians were > constantly caught in the "should I, shouldn't I go back?" kind of > vacillation. The same thing was true back in the late 1980s too and I made a mental note of the factors that people were whining about as part of the

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Venkatesh Hariharan wrote, [on 12/1/2009 10:57 PM]: > In 98-99, I spent a year in Boston and found that most Indians were > constantly caught in the "should I, shouldn't I go back?" kind of > vacillation. I did not find the idea of building a life in one place, > winding it up and then trying to b

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Charles Haynes wrote: > With all due respect, no. There is no "decent wine" available in If you have the money, you can get decent imports. > Bangalore either. The only people who think so are people who don't > really have experience with the current state of wine in the rest of We aren't that

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM, ashok _ wrote: > > (I have visited quite a few government run TASMAC liquor store outlets > in chennai now. The little bottles of brandy seem to be the most > popular items. Saw a guy stop in a scooter, down a whole bottle > without removing his helmet and ride aw

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread ashok _
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Charles Haynes wrote: > > Mass produced Australian or Chilean plonk is still better than even > "high end" Indian wine. To get decent wine in India I had to bring it > in myself, or implore visiting friends to bring me decent wine. Things > will surely improve, but

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan wrote: >> >> --Original Message-- >> From: Deepa Mohan >> Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net >> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net >> ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net >> Subject: Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to G

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Charles Haynes
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Venkat Mangudi wrote: > Too bad you went and settled down in Tamilnadu which even the rest of us > think is a hard ship posting. :-) Just come on down to Bangalore and get > yourself some decent wine. The Nandi valley wines are reasonably good > these days. I highl

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Mahesh Murthy wrote: [...] > This is quite the Derrida-ish argument that everything is justifiable if > only we try to really really understand it, and that Charles Manson should Whatever is being smoked in this room smells of religion to me. Cheeni

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread Venkat Mangudi
ashok _ wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan > wrote: >> mind-games. You start thinking of India as a hardship posting; you expect > > Believe me it is a hard-ship posting ... I cannot find any decent > alcohol in madras... its even difficult to ask around ("why do you Too b

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-12-01 Thread ashok _
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan wrote: > mind-games.  You start thinking of India as a hardship posting; you expect Believe me it is a hard-ship posting ... I cannot find any decent alcohol in madras... its even difficult to ask around ("why do you want to buy wine sir?"). Where do

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, . wrote: > > > Maybe the ex-pats do have a chip on their shoulder but what about the > desi's who want change for a change. Or are you proposing that each > individual should single-handedly bring about change magically without > any support from other fellow Indi

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread .
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:03, Mahesh Murthy wrote: > > I do think returnees who have a problem today came to India with a chip on > their shoulder and a wrong set of hagiographic expectations. And there is no [..] > to blame for these than themselves. And if they feel bad now it's their > faul

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread .
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:13, Deepa Mohan wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan wrote: > >> I so agree. As a repat or cowpat, I have little patience with the whining >> about how hard it is to assimilate back home. > My sis in law is battling breast cancer and is unable to go

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Deepa Mohan wrote: > > Shoba and othersthis problem of having "little patience" is one I'd > like to address. > > Oh well...nuff said, I guess. Please...let us have, not "little patience", > but...a little MORE patience! > > This is quite the Derrida-ish

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan wrote: > > I so agree. As a repat or cowpat, I have little patience with the whining > about how hard it is to assimilate back home. Shoba and othersthis problem of having "little patience" is one I'd like to address. First, let me clarify.

Re: [silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On 01-Dec-2009, at 10:40 AM, Shoba Narayan >Returning home is not (or should not be) an altruistic act. You return home due to circumstances (ill parents) or by choice, or by tacit agreement (company sends you and you don't protest). Bingo! Well said, Shoba. I'd add "or you think India pr

[silk] e: Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again

2009-11-30 Thread Shoba Narayan
--Original Message-- From: Deepa Mohan Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Some Indians Find It Tough to Go Home Again Sent: Nov 30, 2009 18:16 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Ba