CS>re CS>Sodium Chloride Silver Paradox

2001-04-19 Thread Keith Emerson
There you go again! You can't engage in any discussion without attacking those who disagree with you, can you? Definite sign of insecurity, Stuart! ST: James, Good question. Frank won't suggest a mechanism because it does not suit him to do so. The "ammonia hypothesis" which I proposed earl

Re: CS>poly-MVA

2001-04-19 Thread Ivan Anderson
Gil, AMARC and eletrogenetics have both recently changed web sites which explains the broken links. Ivan. - Original Message - From: "Gil DiSanto" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: CS>poly-MVA > Interesting subject. Sounds to good to be true, and at over $300 per

Re: CS>Fw: CS>Caution using H2O2/CS Inhalation Therapy

2001-04-19 Thread Ivan Anderson
The reason quartz is mentioned is because it passes UV light. UV light is required to generate ozone in water, which then degenerates to H2O2. Most glasses and plastics will not pass UV light. Ivan. - Original Message - From: "Gage Tarrant" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:44 PM S

Re: CS>Aspartame: Is there Reliable Research that Supports theConclusions Below?

2001-04-19 Thread Ivan Anderson
It is a very large leap to conclude that introduced DNA can become part of the host DNA. There may be some viruses that are able to do this, but they must contain specific enzymes in order to cleave the host DNA and then further enzymes to cause recombination. Then the chances of the DNA being exp

CS>Sodium Chloride Silver Paradox

2001-04-19 Thread gaia research
Dear Listers James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: I think AgCl is not at all soluble, so there could not be very many Ag ions available. Can you suggest any mechanism that may explain these things? ST: James, Good question. Frank won't suggest a mechanism because it does not suit him to do so. The "am

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Ivan Anderson
Guys, AgCl is soluble to 1.3 x 10^-5 mol which is equivalent to 1.4ppm, that is as free silver ions. Depending on how much salt is in solution this will rise as more silver ions are released from the electrode. Even so, much of the silver chloride remains suspended as colloids, and the reactive li

Re: CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread Judith Thamm
Dear Gage, Plumeria is very prone to root rot and needs to be kept dry in the winter months. However - a good dose of CS now and the root ball thoroughly wetted may be the only thing to save your shrub as it will probably have little roots left. Judith. - Original Message - From: Gage

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Itssuzy2
Thank you Marshall. Perhaps the easiest way would be to post a couple of links back to the silver list. Thought behind the repost was to provide thought and consideration to using CS as a means to protect herds from H & M or F & M. You had posted some real good information, as have many oth

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Frank Key
James wrote: > Hi Frank, > > Thanks for the info. > > When I used 3 9V batteries to make CS, I used less than half the NaCl the > manufactures of the device instructed. [Silver Solutions] The---whatever it > was-that I was making seemed very effective; my lifelong Tinea Pedis went > away in a c

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe that HIV is a common virus, which most people simply do not get. If you have a highly suppressed immune system, then you can get HIV from sexual contact, or from vectors (biting insects) as happens in Africa, where their immune systems are suppressed or overloaded by parasites. But in t

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread RAINISAGE
Marshall, If Aids is caused by benzene then do you think HIV is a STD or communicable by any other means? ~Hanan In a message dated 4/19/01 8:17:45 AM, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << I believe that research has shown that aids is primarily caused by immune system destruction by benzene and be

Re: CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread Kehoe
Hi Gage, I use CS on my plants periodically. I spritz the plant and the top of the soil. I guess about once a month. My plants are doing much better. I also use it on my tomato plants to keep them from getting blight. I use the batches I accidentally "over-cook" for this purpose. CK --

RE: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Frank, Thanks for the info. When I used 3 9V batteries to make CS, I used less than half the NaCl the manufactures of the device instructed. [Silver Solutions] The---whatever it was-that I was making seemed very effective; my lifelong Tinea Pedis went away in a couple of months from drinking,

Re: CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread Gage Tarrant
Thanks to all who responded about the tree- question- the solution I have is a 10 ppm., and the citrus grower OB referred to is using 1ppm. You don't think a X 10 difference will hurt anything, do you? - Original Message - From: "Robert L. Berger" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:12

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Frank Key
James wrote: > Has anyone done any rough calcs on how much AgCl will be produced? > > JOH A very small amount of sodium chloride will provide enough chloride ions to precipitate all the silver ions to silver chloride. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of col

Re: CS>Fwd: Re: CS>Re[2]: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Solar
Hello Serita-spl, Thursday, April 19, 2001, 4:34:40 PM, you wrote: Sswn> Sorry Solar, Sswn> I meant for this to go to the list. Serita No problem. I kind of figured it out. Take care! -- Best regards, Solarmailto:so...@neo.rr.com -- The silver-list is a mode

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Frank Key wrote: > Marshal wrote: > > > I might add that it might be wise to add a fan on the NST, they tend to > > overhead > > and burn out from the increased I^2R losses when running under about 50% of > > their > > rated voltage. > > > If your transformer burns out, you have a poor quality u

Re: CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Gage; I personally know a CSmaker that has a 9 month old experiment going in a citrus grove in the tropics. The trees are beings prayed with a 1 to 1.5 ppm CS and the productions increases 10 times since the scabbing etc. has been eliminated. Try it. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moder

CS>RE: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread searle1
What I've read about Foot in Mouth Disease is that it's purely an economic problem. It doesn't kill animals and it doesn't affect humans, but it makes the animals smaller and the meat production therefore less profitable. They are slaughtering herds in Britain to keep the disease from spreadi

Re: CS>Fwd: Re: CS>Re[2]: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
serita-...@webtv.net wrote: > Hi > If the disease has no known effect on humans then why all the up-roar > and cattle killing. Sound stupid to me!! That is the point. It is stupid. > > Also, how can the FDA control your use of CS on cattle if it your > livestock for your use only and not for sal

RE: CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
This list reported a couple of successes with leaf infections. One was a fungus which a USDA or similar expert said was sure death to the tree. It was sprayed a few times with CS and completely recovered. Try searching the archive for “tree & fungus” . JOH 85-00712 -Original Message-

RE: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Marshall, Has anyone done any rough calcs on how much AgCl will be produced? JOH 85-00712 -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS Well I believe

Re: CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread Beverle Sweitzer
I don't know anything about CS for plants - the answers will be interesting - but I do know that plumeria are very suseptible to spider mite. I also found out the hard way that they should be treated like bulbs and allowed an extensive dormant period.

Re: CS>Epstein-Barr Virus

2001-04-19 Thread RAINISAGE
I have used cs very successfully in fighting herpes simplex virus. May I also recommend eating virgin coconut oil because of it's lauric acid content which breaks the lipid coating down of the virus. Also, eating rice bran which has something called araboxylene (or something like that) which has

CS>Fwd: Re: CS>Re[2]: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Serita-spl
Sorry Solar, I meant for this to go to the list. Serita --- Begin Message --- Hi If the disease has no known effect on humans then why all the up-roar and cattle killing. Sound stupid to me!! Also, how can the FDA control your use of CS on cattle if it your livestock for your use only and not for

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Well I believe there is reason to think so. For one Bob Beck always demonstrated making CS by adding a small amount of salt to his glass of water, and claimed that he got 5 to 10 ppm CS in about 2 minutes. Also we know that the higher the current the faster the production, and that salts lower re

RE: CS>Epstein-Barr Virus

2001-04-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Go to www.rense.com. Look on the main page, near the top right for audio archives, or equivalent. On that link, select tapes for 2001. Scroll down for a program with "Donald Scott". He is a molecular biologist, and has some startling reports. It is possible that a large number of diseases are ac

RE: CS>Re[2]: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
A famous military strategist---name begins---Clous... or similar said something like: "All war is commerce, carried on by other means"...or words to that effect. JOH 85-00712 -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:48 AM To

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Frank Key
Roger wrote: > Marshall: Forgetting about it effect on particle size, have you confirmed > that the presence of salts increases LVDC CS production rate? Roger If you want to add salt, use a salt that contains no chloride, such as sodium carbonate or bicarbonate. It will increase conductivity

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Frank Key
Marshal wrote: > I might add that it might be wise to add a fan on the NST, they tend to > overhead > and burn out from the increased I^2R losses when running under about 50% of > their > rated voltage. > If your transformer burns out, you have a poor quality unit. The NST is designed with a m

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 4/19/01 1:31:39 PM EST, fr...@strsoft.com writes: << The voltage does not need to get higher to maintain the constant current as conductivity increases. As conductivity increases, the voltage will be decreasing to maintain the current constant. The NST will reach its max

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 4/19/01 1:28:19 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << second, the tap water allows a fairly high rate of production due to high conductivity. Marshall >> Marshall: Forgetting about it effect on particle size, have you confirmed that the presence of salts increases LVDC C

CS>Plumeria

2001-04-19 Thread Gage Tarrant
Hello, Does anybody have any experience using CS with plants? I have a 3 year old potted plumeria tree that's looking sick, and I haven't taken it to the nursery yet to find out what's wrong with it. If it turns out to be bacteria or fungus related, will CS in the water help, and if so, how mu

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread billvan
At 12:52 4/19/01, you wrote: rogalt...@aol.com wrote: > If I were still on th efarm with my small herd they would drink CS and > the FDA be damned. What they don't know wont hurt them. > I believe they can test for the silver in the milk. > > If you want to give CS to cows then you had bet

CS>Re: pair of 2" rods

2001-04-19 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Marshall, I received the pair of 2" rods today, thanks. Now I forgot the alloy mixture, so I would appreciate ti if you would post it again. I am going to try mine in the HVAC CO2 generator. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or

Re: CS>Aspartame: Is there Reliable Research that Supports theConclusions Below?

2001-04-19 Thread Harsha Godavari
Aren't you forgetting something here. All the DNA contacts mentioned were raw UNCOOKED DNA. Cooking denatures DNA. Isn't that why "sterilization" is done by boiling? Digestive juices are designed to breakdown polymers and large molecules to as small (for transport across cell membranes) fractions

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
I might add that it might be wise to add a fan on the NST, they tend to overhead and burn out from the increased I^2R losses when running under about 50% of their rated voltage. Marshall Frank Key wrote: > Roger wrote: > > > In making high PPM CS, how do you get around the problem of the > > co

Re: CS>Greetings....from Africa

2001-04-19 Thread BROOKS BRADLEY
Dear Eric, While our evaluations involving CS and Epilepsy proved to be non-productiveour evaluations of Alpha Lipoic Acid yielded VERY encouraging results---from among our volunteer population. Results did not appear to be

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Frank Key
Roger wrote: > In making high PPM CS, how do you get around the problem of the > conductivity getting so high that the HVAC power supply is unable to raise > the voltage high enough to produce the constant (30 or 60 ma) current? Roger The voltage does not need to get higher to maintain the cons

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Although I am not quite sure what you are talking about, you do have my permission to repost anything I have posted. Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: > Marshall, would it be acceptable to you, to post this information to > other > web sites, on what you find with the CS and ppm's re cattle? Wit

Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
rogalt...@aol.com wrote: > If I were still on th efarm with my small herd they would drink CS and > the FDA be damned. What they don't know wont hurt them. > I believe they can test for the silver in the milk. > > If you want to give CS to cows then you had better learn a lot about > HVAC A

Re: CS>Re[2]: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Solar wrote: > I'm not convinced it is "economic warfare". I have a feeling that > these practices are aimed at taking food production out of the hands > of the private individual, and into the hands of government. Of > course, this is all done in the name of "safety". Add to this the > "terminato

Re: CS>Epstein-Barr Virus

2001-04-19 Thread John & Mary Lou Borgert
hi i have had it. but i knocked it out in the beginning by spraying every 15 minutes and injesting about 1 cup a day for 6 months. others who have had it longer and has gone underground, i tell people to get a thin dish rag,clean, and pour cs and the rag, cover with plastic redo every 1/2 hr. it w

RE: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Heather King (LCA)
Not that I particularly agree with everything the FDA does...cattle are ruminants with multiple stomachs who require bacteria in their gut to digest their food. CS would kill that bacteria if cattle (goats, sheep) ingested it by mouth. CS is injectable, however. Heather -Original Message---

CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 4/19/01 10:48:32 AM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes: << Subj: Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth Date: 4/19/01 10:48:32 AM EST From: bober...@swbell.net (Robert L. Berger) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Ya'all, If I were still on th

Re: CS>Epstein-Barr Virus

2001-04-19 Thread Gail Naranjo
Hello Larry and List, I am also a lurker and had no intensions of coming out, just was hoping to learn a few things. Have really enjoyed the humor here tho. I was diagnosed 12 years ago with the EBV or CFIDS whatever you want to call it. I have used CS in conjunction with the Beck protocol with

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Itssuzy2
Marshall, would it be acceptable to you, to post this information to other web sites, on what you find with the CS and ppm's re cattle? With your permission only. Thank you suzy

CS>Are Natural Skeptics "Wired" Differently from Alt. Med. Types? See Below

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
List ran across the following observation on Quackwatch. See my comments which follow. Roger "I'm reading a book on astronomy and came across the following during a discussion of the solar nebula which was responsible for the development of the Solar system: 'One might also confidently have expe

CS>Re[2]: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Solar
Hello, Thursday, April 19, 2001, 10:57:47 AM, you wrote: JOH> One report I saw said max 5 out of 100 die from Aftosa. The disease has no JOH> known effects on humans. JOH> From a personal friend's report, the British solders in Northern Ireland are JOH> breaking the fences between infected and

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
The ONLY thing I can think of is that CS gets in the milk, and might prevent people from getting sick, which is would put the FDA and pharmacuticals out of business. Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: > Marshall, is there any logic at all to this thinking? just ranting. > suzy > > > >> I believe

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Itssuzy2
Marshall, is there any logic at all to this thinking? just ranting. suzy > I believe that CS is very effective against H&M disease, but for some odd > reason the FDA has outlawed allowing cattle to drink it. Marshall >

CS>Greetings....from Africa

2001-04-19 Thread Eric Hatz
Can anyone tell me about the use of CS and its effects on Epilepsy?? Also can long term use damage your organs.?? Thanks Eric Hatz South africa -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [SMTP:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: 19 April 2001 05:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Ya'all, If I were still on th efarm with my small herd they would drink CS and the FDA be damned. What they don't know wont hurt them. If you want to give CS to cows then you had better learn a lot about HVAC ARC CO2 CS, because you will need a lot of it and it can be made in very high streng

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 4/19/01 10:05:30 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: << Subj: Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth Date: 4/19/01 10:05:30 AM EST From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I believe that CS is very effective

Re: CS>Epstein-Barr Virus

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
larry tankersley wrote: > Dear List...I've been mostly lurking the past few months trying to > figure out what's the best CS and the best way to make it.WHAT A BAG OF > WORMS !! I'm about to do something even if it's WRONG. > Anyway, A friends son is suffering from what has been diagnosed as EB

RE: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
One report I saw said max 5 out of 100 die from Aftosa. The disease has no known effects on humans. >From a personal friend's report, the British solders in Northern Ireland are breaking the fences between infected and non-infected herds. They are doing this for Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis al

Re: CS>Aspartame: Is there Reliable Research that Supports theConclusions Below?

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Actually there are many ways to explain this. Everything from like attracts like, to similar diets and environment, to spirit mergings during sex. All can arguably cause married couples to favor each other more than the population at a whole. I am not convinced on the dna thing. I eat lots of ch

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe that CS is very effective against H&M disease, but for some odd reason the FDA has outlawed allowing cattle to drink it. Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: > Last several days our local paper has been carrying articles about > preparedness in case or when this might hit the US. > > http:

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe that research has shown that aids is primarily caused by immune system destruction by benzene and benzene compounds to such an extent that otherwise harmless viruses such as hiv can take over. If so, how would killing them off help anyone? Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: > Killing off eve

CS>Epstein-Barr Virus

2001-04-19 Thread larry tankersley
Dear List...I've been mostly lurking the past few months trying to figure out what's the best CS and the best way to make it.WHAT A BAG OF WORMS !! I'm about to do something even if it's WRONG. Anyway, A friends son is suffering from what has been diagnosed as EB virus. I've been through the arc

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Killing off every AIDs infected human would stop that disease very short. Sure, let's do it! It's always fatal anyway , right? Yea, Uh huh Better yet, lop off the heads and feet of all the cows and hook em all up to life support machines till grocery store time? Ken At 07:21 AM 4/19/01 -0400,

Re: CS>ionic solver

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 4/18/01 10:26:37 PM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes: << To extrapolate what happens inside such a complex chemical factory as the human body from a few basic chemical equilibrium equations appears to me to be just a bit on the absurded side of things.>> Bob: I think you hit

CS>Patients, Doctors More Open to Alternative Medicine

2001-04-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
List: A straw in the wind? Roger Patients, Doctors More Open to Alternative Medicine By Anita Manning Acupuncture, meditation, drum circles and other alternative forms of medical treatment have been inching their way into conventional medical practices for years — even though there hasn't been m

Re: CS>Hoax Virus

2001-04-19 Thread M. G. Devour
Such messages are themselves a sort of 'virus', propagated willingly by their victims. The originator still gets his jollies, but doesn't have to know any programming. Be well, Mike D. > > http://www1.bluemountain.com/home/hoax.html > > http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/ > > It Takes Guts to S

Re: CS> Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth

2001-04-19 Thread June Narber
I think this butching of animals is part of a conspiracy, literally. It is my opinion this foot/mouth disease is not fatal. It was a ploy by some power that be to slaughter other-wise healthy animals. The farmers will be feeling this in Britain for the next decade. Cripple the farmers, you cripple

Re: CS>Mental illness and virus

2001-04-19 Thread Nick Grant
Hi Judith I would have been vaccinated with the Salk polio vaccine in 1962, in New Zealand. Would that have been an "at risk" time as well, for the infected vaccines? Regards Tracy p/s Did you used to live in New Zealand? - Original Message - From: Judith Thamm To: silver-li