CS>Argyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-17 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Janis, Below is a pesto recipe that has been posted by various people. I would try that and also do a mild liver flush every morning until the colour clears away. Mild liver flush first thing in the morning take: 1 to 3 cloves garlic crushed 1/2 a lemon or more. 1 to 3 tablespoons olive oil

Re: CS>Listowner comments... please read

2002-04-17 Thread d x
- Original Message - From: M. G. Devour To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:16 AM Subject: CS>Listowner comments... please read > Dear group, > > Janis has come back to us to ask if we have any information about > chelation, or anything else that might be able to help a mild case

RE: CS>Argyria, misc posts

2002-04-17 Thread JJ
> -Original Message- > From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:04 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Argyria, misc posts > > > Let me quote Alexander G. Schauss, Ph.D. > Director, Life Sciences Division > John Hopkins University

Re: CS>Silver Compound Toxicity, the World Health Organization

2002-04-17 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear Jason, It is a true tragedy that such blatant "spinning" of information is expected to pass as objective "research". In possible defense of most of these researchers-of-record, most of them (probably) were totally unfamiliar with tru

Re: CS>CS Starter????

2002-04-17 Thread Joseph Fritz
Explain this and what happens if you dont use a starter??? What is the end result??? Thanks. Maxine Just takes longer to make. I just made a batch from straight distilled water had some water left cause my jar only holds 96 oz refilled the jar then brewed for a much shorter time. Sincere

Re: CS>Listowner comments... please read

2002-04-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
My suggestion to Janis would be to look closely into the claims of Y. Omura, MD, that simple cilantro effectively chelates metals from the body. He has made no specific claims r.e. agyria, so far as I know, but claims cilantro scavenges mercury very effectively. I made this recommendation to R. J

Re: CS>Gall Bladder Stones

2002-04-17 Thread Gary Green
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 05:59 AM, Ronen Yehiav wrote: She is pressured by almost everyone to have an operation to remove the gall bladder. She has no infection or inflammation, and no pains. Here are the official rules: If there is no pain and no infection YOU DO NOT SCREW AROUND

Re: CS>CS Starter????

2002-04-17 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:16:51 -0700, Malcolm Stebbins wrote: >All this brings a question to my mind; what about that first 15 minutes or >half-hour? What I mean is, if the particle size is largely governed by the >current rate, so that smaller particles are generated at lower currents, isn't >tha

CS>Gall Bladder Stones

2002-04-17 Thread Ronen Yehiav
I have a friend, a 60+ woman, who I helped get over type II diabetes, which was found to have some gall bladder stones, up to 11 mm in diameter (about 1/5 of an inch). She is pressured by almost everyone to have an operation to remove the gall bladder. She has no infection or inflammation, and no

CS>Argyria(2)

2002-04-17 Thread Byron
This site discusses Argyria: http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic595.htm Including some possible removal techniques. Byron

CS>Argyria

2002-04-17 Thread Byron
A quick search a the New England Journal of Medicine http://content.nejm.org/ turned up these articles: Mystery of the Blue Pigmentation Johnston A. McD., Memon A. A. N Engl J Med 1999; 340:1597-1598, May 20, 1999. Correspondence Argyria Bouts B. A. N Engl J Med 1999; 340:1554, May 20, 1999. Im

Re: CS>Topical use: Colloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-17 Thread Richard
Before this thread gets too long, I have a fundamental question, as you two are more knowledgeable: Franks website states that: " Some electrochemical processes result in colloidal solutions whose metal content consists of only 1% particles, while 99% is ions." Is this 'electrochemical proc

Re: CS>Water OZ silver

2002-04-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
What was the results? Marshall Frank Key wrote: > Marshall wrote: > > > Did you, or could you test for nitrates? > > Yes. We no long have the Perkin Elmer Spectrophotometer in the lab, so we > now use a simple test kit available from www.nitrate.com. > > The product is called the Nitrate Test Ki

Re: CS>Listowner comments... please read

2002-04-17 Thread Richard
Excellant commentary by a responsible list owner. Kudo's Mike Richard M. G. Devour wrote: Dear group, Janis has come back to us to ask if we have any information about chelation, or anything else that might be able to help a mild case of argyria. Donna Earnest stopped using silver and lef

CS>Water OZ silver

2002-04-17 Thread Frank Key
Marshall wrote: > Did you, or could you test for nitrates? Yes. We no long have the Perkin Elmer Spectrophotometer in the lab, so we now use a simple test kit available from www.nitrate.com. The product is called the Nitrate Test Kit (NTK) and is available for testing in two ranges: The standard

CS>Silver Compound Toxicity, the World Health Organization

2002-04-17 Thread AVRA / Jason
I have posted a copy of the WHO Food Additives Series 12, on silver compound toxicity: http://silverdata.20m.com/whosilvercompoundtoxicity.html Quite a bit of interesting reading, although again the data is in reference to several different types of high PPM silver compounds. Jason -- The silv

Re: CS>Topical use: Colloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
Frank Key wrote: > Kevin Nolan wrote: > > > General consensus though is that the ionic form works best for external > use while the colloidal form > > probably survives better in the internal environment to 'do the job'. > > For topical use it is important to understand what happens when the wate

RE: CS>Water OZ silver

2002-04-17 Thread Bob Bartell
Thank You, Frank! Once again you have come through for us in a timely manner! It's appreciated! Namaste: Bob Bartell -Original Message- From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Water OZ silver I was giv

Re: CS>Water OZ silver

2002-04-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
Did you, or could you test for nitrates? Marshall Frank Key wrote: > I was given a bottle of WaterOZ ionic silver by a friend who asked if we > could do some lab testing on it. The bottle was labeled 100 ppm. Atomic > absorption tests indicated it was actually 145 ppm. I called the company to >

CS>Topical use: Colloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-17 Thread Frank Key
Kevin Nolan wrote: > General consensus though is that the ionic form works best for external use while the colloidal form > probably survives better in the internal environment to 'do the job'. For topical use it is important to understand what happens when the water evaporates from the ionic si

RE: CS>Argyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-17 Thread Bob Bartell
Amen. -Original Message- From: Solar [mailto:so...@dialup.oar.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Argyria and Beneficial Bugs Janis, It is not my intention, nor the intention of others (I believe), to "blast" you. It's my opinio

CS>Water OZ silver

2002-04-17 Thread Frank Key
I was given a bottle of WaterOZ ionic silver by a friend who asked if we could do some lab testing on it. The bottle was labeled 100 ppm. Atomic absorption tests indicated it was actually 145 ppm. I called the company to ask about this discrepancy and was told that they used to make a 150 ppm silve

Re: CS>Argyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-17 Thread James Allison
There was a medical case a few years ago where they thought somebody had argyria from silver, however, they found that it was caused by something else, I don't have access to the New England Journal of Medicine website any more, so I can't look up the cite, however, I do have a question, and tha

RE: CS>Milk

2002-04-17 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
This preserves the milk at the expense of killing the bacteria---such as lactobacillus---that are one of the (few, many authorities claim) benefits of drinking milk. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:rhar...@nstep.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:31

Re: CS>Listowner comments... please read

2002-04-17 Thread Neilinthegarden
In a message dated 4/17/2002 7:12:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mlehan...@msn.com writes: > > list, > I think a little experimentation may be helpful. If one were to use a > mineral like Magnesium it might replace or absorb the silver. > I was thinking the same thing. I have been using so

Re: CS>CS Salve

2002-04-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
Several here have reported making salves different ways. I have found the following to be extremely good for healing, getting rid of acne, preventing scarring on burns and so forth. Take aloe vera gel and add baking soda until the ph is raised to 7 or slightly above. Mix approximately equal porti

Re: CS>Douche

2002-04-17 Thread Connie
Since no one took at stab at this for you I have very successfully used CS for more than a couple years to initially stop a very long standing vaginal yeast infection. (another one of those side effects of diabetis and ABX therapy) So bad were the infections that a biopsy was even done. (that w

CS>CS: Welcome back Janis!!

2002-04-17 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Dear Janis, I`m Marsha and Marshalee both. When the idiot husband dumped me 2 years ago, I changed back to my real name. Lots has happened to me since then. I`m at BYU again, after my 29 year long break to raise four kids. I`m studying Genealogy. It`s been hard work, but lots of fun. I have 4

Re: CS>Listowner comments... please read

2002-04-17 Thread Marlene Hanson
list, I think a little experimentation may be helpful. If one were to use a mineral like Magnesium it might replace or absorb the silver. I am going to mix some magnesium with some CS see what happens then filter it through a coffee filter and see if I have any silver left in the resulting wat

CS>No argyria

2002-04-17 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Kevin Nolan said, "That quote on no reported cases of argyria in the last 25 years is not quite correct though." Actually, it is totally correct. Dr. Schauss said: "We could not locate a single case of orally consumed colloidal silver manufactured in the last 25 years causing Argyria in our revie

Re: CS>CS Salve

2002-04-17 Thread billvan
Try, http://www.elixa.com/silver/index.html At 08:51 4/17/02, you wrote: I once saw a website from which you could order a substance (some kind of inert gel) that you could mix with CS to make a salve, but have long since lost the link. But I know it's out there somewhere. Neil Bill Hibe

Re: CS>Colloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-17 Thread Kevin Nolan
RE: CS>Colloidal vs silver ionsWell we seem to have been talking different things Bob. Seems you were referring to the final outcome - the effect, which is indeed relatively large particles of silver and I suppose silver compounds in the skin and sometimes elsewhere. At any rate we all agree tha

Re: CS>H2O2 in CS

2002-04-17 Thread Kevin Nolan
CS as deodorantTrouble with that test is it is very crude - every DIY process for making CS will produce some fraction of particulate (ie colloidal) silver - anything from less than 1% to perhaps 30%. How would one know where in the range their product lies? Many will take exception with the cla

CS>Listowner comments... please read

2002-04-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear group, Janis has come back to us to ask if we have any information about chelation, or anything else that might be able to help a mild case of argyria. Donna Earnest stopped using silver and left the list over a year ago after she also was told she "looked grey." Both took a WaterOz silve

Re: CS>CS Salve

2002-04-17 Thread Neilinthegarden
I once saw a website from which you could order a substance (some kind of inert gel) that you could mix with CS to make a salve, but have long since lost the link. But I know it's out there somewhere. Neil

Re: CS>Argyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-17 Thread Solar
Janis, It is not my intention, nor the intention of others (I believe), to "blast" you. Nor is it my intention to make light of your situation. But, you do need to understand that there are many people on this list who would like to know the specifics. No, the exact amount of WaterOz that you cons

Re: CS>Argyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-17 Thread Sinaj101
In a message dated 4/16/2002 9:10:43 PM Central Daylight Time, liah...@utah-inter.net writes: > Sorry, but the "good" bugs don`t kill the "bad" bugs in an aquarium. The > biological filter works by the bacteria (neither good nor bad) converting > nitrates from fish poo and uneated food into le