!
There is no substitute for information.
That's why I read every message that appears on this list.
Del
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
Of course, doctors know
19, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
Of course, doctors know everything possible under the sun and every
single one of millions of human variations and combinations.
Fat chance.
Your belief in doctors is infallible and when it's unrealistic, that's
their fault.
Yea, that'll work
300,000 miles on a good engine rebuild is not unusual with good maintenance.
A good engine builder pays closer attention to detail and tolerances than
the factory.
Some vehicles will do 300k to 500k from the factory.
A clutch only wears when starting from a stop, if the driver knows how to
Very good post John. Dee
---Original Message---
From: John Plumridge
Date: 19/10/2007 02:20:17
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
OK, if they know they are lying, but consider that there are many ailments
that don't amount to a diagnosis of some syndrome or known
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From: John Plumridge
Date: 19/10/2007 03:39:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...[Carol] - Kurt
All true Carol Ann, and nicely put. But anger is the natural emotion felt
at perceived injustice. Deception is an example. and the anger has an
object, though maybe
Of course, doctors know everything possible under the sun and every
single one of millions of human variations and combinations.
Fat chance.
Your belief in doctors is infallible and when it's unrealistic, that's
their fault.
Yea, that'll work...and you aren't evil.
Mental illness never
When a person approaches a health care provider, or anyone else providing
a service, and relinquishes their self-responsibility for acquiring at
least some knowledge of the problem they are sealing their fate. If you
know your engine is always stalling and the mechanic tells you he's
Dee wrote:
There's another point here which I don't think has been covered yet.
This is that patients can be their own worst enemies. i.e. When the
doctor says nothing can be done for their cold etc., they insist on
anti-biotics or something that they can take home with them!
I think that
Ode, common now..800,000 miles and 3 engines? If you were making the
comparison to a plastic surgeon, the analogy would be more believable. :)
Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:
## I've heard this one a hundred times.
Car comes in needing a new clutch, gets new clutch.
1Customer
That being the case - bible references - Ignorance regarding the terminology
and interpretation of the word Witch whether applied to modern or archaic is
bliss.
Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 10/17/2007 Carol Ann wrote:
Get a good concordance and look up the biblical
OK, if they know they are lying, but consider that there are many ailments
that don't amount to a diagnosis of some syndrome or known pathology. ALso,
in the early stages, depending how a patient presents themsleves, and with
no clear indications, why fear the worst, when things do
not like or trust doctors that is your
problem.
Faith
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Milkowski
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is
wrong with them
This is an important point I think , Nancy. I could expand briefly:
limited knowledge of biochemical processes and nutrition has led to
spurious conclusions, fashions and so on. Many of these were taken up and
publicised by a competitive food industry (processed foods).
MOreover, processed
: CSDoctors...
I am really fed up with this conversation.
I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only
helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to
consider kind, loving and caring friend.
All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like
All true Carol Ann, and nicely put. But anger is the natural emotion felt
at perceived injustice. Deception is an example. and the anger has an
object, though maybe fuzzy. It shouldn' t be all doctors, and is also a
system of political corruption. But that seems almost like all doctors.
We do
within the normal range is not the ideal range. Some (Omega's) are low
throughout the American population, as a whole.
JOhn
--On 17 October 2007 09:02:15 -0500 CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Morning Faith,
At 07:26 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:
What's an EFA profile?
Don't feel
How beautiful.
--On 17 October 2007 19:01:26 -0700 Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Kurt - p.s. Enjoy Life. Sometimes people can get so absolutely
preoccupied and caught up in inconsequential psycho dramas to the
exclusion of all else ( even illness is not excluded) that they
I dont believe that it is self defense that inhibit most doctors from
practicing better. I believe more in what John said in the last two paragraphs
about them being arrogant, nasty, etc etc. Sorry I have had just to many bad
experiences with medical people to be able to think any other way.
What Doctors Don't Tell You
Searchable Archives
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Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: the ones I saw that did say
EXACTLY that, were not lying. They just
believed the load of hogwash they were being fed. Some of it
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is
wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with
them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I
know there may be some that don't have
I am going to bring this back on topic, I hope!
CS/EIS is free, or nearly so, helps many diseases/conditions and is as
toxic as water.
Big Insurance is co-mingled with Big Pharma, and has a vested interest
in drug profits.
If you use EIS/CS, you probably won't be going to the MD, who won't get
Hey Carol,
Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of
destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Been through a fair share of
surgeries and hospitilazations with my family, not a whole bunch of fun. Do I
give the credit to any humans for the successful
Morning Kurt,
At 06:31 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:
First realize the these wonderful doctors make an oath to apollo, the
greek god of destruction.
I am only a goofy old technician and my first rule is
Do thy patient no harm.
I guess we need to print up a few thousand of these
What's an EFA profile?
Faith
- Original Message -
From: CWFugitt
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: CSDoctors, The good, the Bad, and the ugly
Evening Faith,
At 06:40 PM 10/16/2007, you wrote:
I am really fed up
doctoring.
Paula
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Milkowski
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Hey Carol,
Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of
destruction, apollo, you may
Not a bad idea Wayne, from one silly carpenter to a goofy ole' technician.
Kurt
CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Morning Kurt,
At 06:31 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:
First realize the these wonderful doctors make an oath to apollo, the
greek god of destruction.
I am only a goofy old
Hey Kurt ~
Re your sis. Forget mistakes. Forget
failures. Forget everything except what you're going to do now and do it. ;)
Ya know, of course, that by now, what you are experiencing is a learning
process which is sometimes very painful but very applicable
Morning Faith,
At 07:26 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:
What's an EFA profile?
Don't feel bad, most doctors do not know.
Essential Fatty Acid Profile.
There are about 29 items on the list. Mine had to go to the Mayo Clinic.
Local Blood Labs cannot usually do it.
At age 64, every single item
Kurt ~
Question.What do you think about the millions of people who go to doctors with
mysterious complaints. They're given a RX because the doctor really dosen't
have a definitive diagnosis and is taking their best shot with a drug that they
believe might help. The patient has the RX filled
Hey Carol,
I feel bad for these people having been brainwashed. I was one of them, then
I woke up. Unfortunately we live in a greedy, sick world. I know its the
hippocratic oath, the oath was origionally made to the god appolo.
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
Kurt ~
Hey Carol,
What I am doing now is this, trying to give some folks information. As you
know most don't like the truth, the truth is uncomfortable. Waking up is hard
to do, Niel Sedaka could rewrite a good song there. That has been my job for
the last year and a half. The more we get to
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...[Carol]
Hey Carol,
Again, when you realize the oath the doctors take is to the greek gos of
destruction, apollo, you may think twice. Been through a fair share of
surgeries and hospitilazations with my family, not a whole bunch of fun. Do I
give the credit
Hi Kurt,
I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that before.
Anyway, this is one of the references I found and thought you might enjoy it.
It made me laugh. Just substitute modern terminology, for example, gods of
prophecy/priests/ = doctors; temple/abaton =-
Hey Carol,
History just keeps repeating itself. Its really kind of funny when you think
about it. We get all knids of new toys to play with but we don't get any
smarter do we?
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Kurt,
I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never
Hey there, speak for thee...and not for we.
I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone else was going
right since I was but a wee babeor so my daddy used to tell me up until the
day he died. Society overall, has not yet demonstrated to me why I should do an
about face
Well I've always kind of been going against the grain, swimming upstream. Now
the waters just running a little faster, hope I don't drown.
Kurt
Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey there, speak for thee...and not
for we.
I dunno know about thee, I've been going left when everyone
Kurt - p.s. Enjoy Life. Sometimes people can get so absolutely preoccupied and
caught up in inconsequential psycho dramas to the exclusion of all else (
even illness is not excluded) that they forget some of important things
that make less than desirable health more bearable.
Carol
On 10/17/2007 Carol Ann wrote:
I got curious about the Apollo comment because I never read that
before. Anyway, this is one of the references I found and thought
you might enjoy it.
It made me laugh. Just substitute modern terminology, for example,
gods of prophecy/priests/ = doctors;
It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line
If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore
more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits,
flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim
getting a third
Sounds a lot like Farenheit 451 to me.
George Orwell was about 20 years ahead of his time, should have been
2004!
Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better
off everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these
genius', can anyone explain to me how
It is not all the doctors that are the basis for the system. It looks
to be insurance companies, and a few bad guys. And how many would die
with no medical treatment? Alot. I good solution, imho, is to let each
person decide what they want to do with their own body. And to keep
governemental
It said the insurance companies are doing that, paying a bounty on each
person denied coverage.
On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:32 PM, CWFugitt wrote:
Evening Kurt,
At 04:37 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote:
Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the
better off everybody will be.
When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong
with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them
all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know
there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on,
Kurt ~
Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than
say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers.
More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the
service sought.
Doctors are but mere mortals, human beings
the ones I saw that did say EXACTLY that, were not lying. They just
believed the load of hogwash they were being fed. Some of it
prepetrated by the ones that *are* evil, and behind the supression of
the free practice of medicine ( and I do not mean money). Other parts
of it are rooted in
and admire
professional people and If you do not like or trust doctors that is your
problem.
Faith
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Milkowski
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
When so many people go to see a doctor because
My experience is that doctors actually don't know what is wrong when
the cause of the problem is nutritional. They are not taught
nutrition in medical school. So they can tell you straight-faced that
you have a disease whose cause is unknown and it cannot be cured but
they can give you
PM
Subject: Re: CSDoctors...
I am really fed up with this conversation.
I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped
me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind,
loving and caring friend.
All this doctor-bashing
Evening Faith,
At 06:40 PM 10/16/2007, you wrote:
I am really fed up with this conversation.
I always hate to disagree with you, but sometimes,
I have to. grin Just a little anyway.
I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only
helped me immeasurably over and
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Tad Winiecki wrote:
I asked her why she couldn't test people for their mineral
deficiencies and treat their nutritional diseases, and she said the
insurance company would not pay for the tests, or there were no tests
for some.
That is exactly what I am
In a message dated 10/15/2007 6:38:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
c_wa...@earthlink.net writes:
Evening Kurt,
At 04:37 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote:
Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better
off everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these
Hi folks,
Here in the US, in order for doctors to function professionally on any
basis at all they must participate in a system that is extremely
controlled -- many of us would say thoroughly corrupt. No matter their
motivation and character, that system severely restricts what they are
Thanks, Mike, well said, and worth repeating.
It is very frustrating to have such negative experiences at the hands
of those who are in the business of helping us, and then to learn of
the blatent warfare tactics of a powerful few to keep the rest in line
and promote one point of view, and
Well put, Mike.
M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks,
Here in the US, in order for doctors to function professionally on any
basis at all they must participate in a system that is extremely
controlled -- many of us would say thoroughly corrupt. No matter their
motivation and
Unfortunate, but true, Kathryn.
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Thanks, Mike, well said, and worth
repeating.
It is very frustrating to have such negative experiences at the hands
of those who are in the business of helping us, and then to learn of
the blatent warfare tactics of a
Sorry about the lack of trimming...my mouse has died, in spite of being
given no medicine or vaccinations. I'm using my blue tooth phone at the
moment as a mouse controller.
Anyway, Mike's post about doctors hits the mark for me, and reveals insight
about who doctors are.
As children people
Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better off
everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these genius', can
anyone explain to me how this could possibly be accidental?
Kurt
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:
Thanks, Mike, well said,
Evening Kurt,
At 04:37 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote:
Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better
off everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these
genius', can anyone explain to me how this could possibly be accidental?
One doctor, speaking to
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/04/03/engineered.organs/index.html
Seven living with bladders from new process
Tuesday, April 4, 2006; Posted: 9:37 a.m. EDT (13:37 GMT)
Marshall
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Hello to All,
My name is Gene and I have just begun to peruse the information about CS and
it's uses.
By chance, I had an apointment with an EENT Doctor today and asked him about
CS. He never heard of it (a likely story). So I have determined that this is
all a question of intellect and that
Marshalee, after going through approx 20 brands of powdered C, I settled
on Natrol brand Ester C. Keeping an empty stomach and increasing a
hydrochloric acid with a supplement would help rapid and a better
absorption.
My main routine is to take 2 heaping teaspons (approx. 7,000 mg) in
juice at
a colonoscopy definitely saved my son's life a couple years ago. He's mid
40
davido
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:39:30 -0400 alltogether...@webtv.net writes:
Marshalee, I feel the same about the colonosocopy. I told my doc
about
http://GaryNull.com s comments that we all have cancer several
Hi! Well, I have no gallbladder anymore, as the darn Lyme bugs did it
in. Had to have it removed in 1991. (I heard this happens to a lot of
Lymies)
Maybe this is a phantom pain??
No pain in the left side at all.
I took a big bunch of silver yesterday, and that finally got rid of the
small
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdoctors, sigh
Hmm, interesting!
Any suggestions on what is a good kind of C to get? I have some
chewable, but it tastes yucky, hard for me to get down. And some tablets
make my stomach burn.
Marshalee
Marshalee, I feel the same about the colonosocopy. I told my doc about
http
OK! Thanks for the info.
Once my Trust is up and running, by the end of the month, hopefully,
I`ll be able to get good things like that. (Right now, I`m on a 75
dollar loan from my daughter, just to make it to the end of this month.
I used up all my savings in the last 7 months, and am now
Dear David,
I am so glad for him!
He must have had his tumor located low enough down the colon to be
found, most are up high, where the colonoscopy the tubes can`t get.
Thus my mom died. sigh...
I had a colonoscopy 9 years ago, when the Lyme was ravaging me. The
doc did it, found nothing, and
Hi Marshalee,
Good to hear about no pains under the left ribs as that is not a good
sign. I have no gallbladder either. I still have pains in that area.
Maybe phantom pains, but you can still have stones in the bile ducts and
liver trying to exit. I have passses several stones since
own CS, you might think about brewing your own Kombucha too.
If you have any questions, e-mail me.
Sasha
---Original Message---
From: Marshalee
Date: 04/13/05 07:59:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdoctors, sigh
Hi! Well, I have no gallbladder anymore, as the darn Lyme bugs
In a message dated 4/13/2005 8:33:42 AM Central Standard Time,
ide...@juno.com writes:
a colonoscopy definitely saved my son's life a couple years ago.
A colonoscopy WOULD HAVE saved my Dad's life, if he'd had one. I think
avoiding a colonoscopy is perilous. MA
In a message dated 4/13/2005 10:08:36 AM Central Standard Time,
mama...@netzero.net writes:
I`m getting my share put into a Special Needs Trust, so I can
keep my SSI and Medicaid going.
I'm interested in this. I have a sister who is on Soc.Sec.Disability with
Medicaid, etc. She will be
In a message dated 4/13/2005 10:12:42 AM Central Standard Time,
mama...@netzero.net writes:
He must have had his tumor located low enough down the colon to be
found, most are up high, where the colonoscopy the tubes can`t get.
Are you sure you aren't talking about a sigmoidoscopy? They can't
Having some family history of colon cancer, it drives doctors nuts that
I refuse to have a colonoscopy, I've had two sigmoidoscopies years ago,
and those were enough for me, I refuse any more of those either. What
drives me nuts about doctors, and why I stay away from them as much as
I think a colonoscopy does pretty much examine the entire intestinal
tract. My mother's surgeon insisted on showing me the photos of her
colonoscopy as well as the polyps they removed (in little glass tubes).
He didn't seem to notice I was gagging and looking away. He was very
proud of his
if a male has no familial colon prob, is under 50, no symptoms of colon
prob. and no family that gives a damn about em-- I would say they have
the
right to drive the docs nuts. davido
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:58:21 -0600 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:
Having some family history of
I watched Katie Couric get one on TV a while back. They can`t getfar
beyond the Descending Colon.
Marshalee
He must have had his tumor located low enough down the colon to be
found, most are up high, where the colonoscopy the tubes can`t get.
Are you sure you aren't talking about a
This is basically correct, Marshalee, in fact they cant get beyond the
dec.col. at all now; but the entire colon can be quite nicely viewed-- I
have had them with and without sedation [same with endoscopic] and there
is some discomfort from the air pressure inserted to shape the colon for
a better
I resepctfully disagree, there really are very valid individual reasons
why someone at high risk (me) would refuse these tests, I do not intend
to discuss them here however. This is not something to say a person is
silly about, really. I have thoroughly researched both the benefits
and risks
My mom died of colon cancer, with mets to the liver. She had NO
treatment, and thus had five good years. She didn`t really deteriorate
until the last 2 weeks! She saw the horror and misery her mom had gone
through with breast cancer and the primitive chemotherapy available back
in the late
Hi, Listers!
Well, I went for a checkup today, to one of the only docs in town who
does Medicaid and is accepting new patients. She is a nice lady, she is
from Romania, but she obviously thinks CS is weird, and that too much
stomach acid causes heartburn. (I told her about the low stomach
Marshalee, I feel the same about the colonosocopy. I told my doc about
http://GaryNull.com s comments that we all have cancer several times in
or lives, and he agreed, so if I develop it, then I would do the least
toxic treatment first, and so on.
I am finding that mega doses of ester c
Hmm, interesting!
Any suggestions on what is a good kind of C to get? I have some
chewable, but it tastes yucky, hard for me to get down. And some tablets
make my stomach burn.
Marshalee
Marshalee, I feel the same about the colonosocopy. I told my doc about
http://GaryNull.com s comments
I'm very sorry to hear about your situation Marshalee.
Sincerely..Ernie
-Original Message-
From: Marshalee [mailto:mama...@netzero.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSdoctors, sigh
Hi, Listers!
Well, I went for a checkup today, to one
Hi Marshalee,
The pains under your ribs is likely your gall bladder/liver on your
rightside and spleen on your left side. I had my gallbladder removed
eight years ago and when they diagnosed many stones they also found my
spleen to be enlarged. WhenI feel crappy my spleen enlarges more and
Message -
From: John Rigby jrig...@fablor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:18 PM
Subject: CSDoctors and you
Hi folks,
This appeared on the CS list. Not sure if it is another troll or not.
:-)
At 02:11 AM 22/08/04, you wrote:
Docs have just as many conficting
Hi folks,
This appeared on the CS list. Not sure if it is another troll or not. :-)
At 02:11 AM 22/08/04, you wrote:
Docs have just as many conficting beliefs as anyone and more restrictions
on their actions than anyone, all of which are intended to protect you...
and the Docs from
From: John Rigby jrig...@fablor.com
John,
I'm surprised! For all the wisdom you provide us on this list to say
Wondering what the hell he is doing still in the trenches at his age.
B.S.
I'll post OT.
Christine
From: John Rigby jrig...@fablor.com
But, it did start me thinking about
Read it and weep. . . .
http://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/articles/431feat2.html
30-50% compliance with hand-washing rules in hospitals. . .
JBB
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Most of the perks doctors receive are not money but golf trips, expensive
gifts, freebies on lots of stuff compliments of the company that manufactures
the particular brand of poison being pushed that month.
Liz
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Most of the perks doctors receive are not money but golf trips,
expensive gifts, freebies on lots of stuff compliments of the company that
manufactures the particular brand of poison being pushed that
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