Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
Dear Marshall,
You said:
The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells,
allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring
** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite
interesting to me. Can you
.
Best Regards,
Jason
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From: James-Osborn: Holmes-Junior a...@cybermesa.com
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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
Dr. Robert O. Becker said that it will cause CA cells to revert back to
stem
cells
No
It means that IF silver ions are converted to silver chloride on contact
with hydrochloric acid, silver chloride still works...just not as well as
silver ions alone.
It's not 'taken out of action' though the action is reduced. [by a
factor of 10 if the literature is right]
..and
If you make under 5 PPM with LVDC you're probably getting very close to
100% ionic
K
At 12:44 PM 5/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds.
Who has 100% ionic, and what is the ppm?
Marshall
Peter Brandt wrote:
Marshall:
I believe
Does it swim in circles???
--- Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote:
Catherine wrote:
** This part about injured cells reverting to stem
cells is quite
interesting to me. Can you provide any articles,
citations, etc. about
this?
I have a duck that had her drumstick bone
Marshall:
I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the
stomach immediately and is basically removed from
action.
Does this mean that you believe that positive testimonials
in regards to 100% ionic silver are placebo when it
comes to internal applications and systemic effects?
Peter
I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds.
Who has 100% ionic, and what is the ppm?
Marshall
Peter Brandt wrote:
Marshall:
I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the
stomach immediately and is basically removed from
action.
Does this mean that you
on cs vs. ionic silver
I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds.
Who has 100% ionic, and what is the ppm?
Marshall
Peter Brandt wrote:
Marshall:
I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the
stomach immediately and is basically removed from
that really doesn't
prove anything.
Marshall
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds
Hi EIS'ers.
I know that there is an abundance of belief that CS turns to AgCl in the
stomach.
To Ole Bob that is a BUNCH of baloney.
The idea of applying inorganic chemistry to an organic situation is pure
stupidity.
Sorry if I offend some of you but no one knows what reactions take place in
Robb
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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
Robb Allen wrote:
The tests that I had done on my silver after adding h2o2 showed that it
was
100% ionic
Marshall,
When Frank Key tested some of my HVAC EIS he measured it a 99.4% ionic. the
PPM was 15.
The extra wide anode LVDC makes 98+ ionic at 35 ppm.
Ole Bob
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Catherine wrote:
** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite
interesting to me. Can you provide any articles, citations, etc. about
this?
I have a duck that had her drumstick bone crushed right above the joint,
and then lost blood return from her foot so that the foot
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
Berger,
How do you know that ionic silver is superior? I know that there are people
on this list that claim that both of them work. But until
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
Dear Marshall,
You said:
The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells,
allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring
Great reports, but do you mean scar as in scar tissue?
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From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net
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Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
I saw it with my own two eyes: !. Had a stock boy rip
Colloidal silver made by the LVDC method which is what you would be
using is typically about 90% ionic and 10% particulate.
Marshall
Jay Ice wrote:
Can I make ionic silver at home or is it done with special equipment
and if so how much do you charge?Jay
Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
Jay,
Almost all CS made at home is mostly ionic. Ionic silver can be
determined mostly by a very weak TE, and with a 15 to 20 reading on your
PWT.
:Ole Bob
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Dear Marshall,
You said:
The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells,
allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring
** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite
interesting to me. Can you provide any articles, citations, etc. about
Mr. Scott,
Please go to www.silverlon.com and read it VERY carefully.
The patented and FDA approved silverlon bandage is metalic silver
aqueously plated on to a nylon web.
The metallic silver in contact with an open wound will generate ionic
silver as they indicate. Look at the pictures of the
The Body Electric by Robert Becker.
Marshall
C Creel wrote:
Dear Marshall,
You said:
The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells,
allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring
** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite
Scott,
go to my web site and read the thumbnsil of my background. I have the
tail feathers to back up what I say. www.hvacsilver.com
Ole Bob
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Catherine,
Go to www.silverlon.com and read it carefully !!! You will find the answer,
also Dr Becker's patent on attaching silver electrodes to an incision and
applying less than one volt for fast healing.
Ole Bob
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Does anyone know or believe with reason that basic homemade CS of about 10
ppm, nebulized, would help lung tumors? I am going to do an archive search,
but thought I'd post as well.
TIA,
paula
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Dear Mr. Berger,
I went to the web site you suggested and read it VERY carefully. I found the
following sentence Due to the differing experimental procedures, conclusions
are difficult at best.
I was not asking you to validate the fact that ionic or particulate silver
works, I was asking you
better too.
Best wishes,
Andy (^_^)
Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
From: Robert Berger
Scott,
go to my web site and read the thumbnsil of my background. I have the
tail feathers to back up what I say. www.hvacsilver.com
Ole Bob
If someone says ionic silver is better, that means they sell CS that is mostly
ionic. If someone says particulate silver is better, that means they sell CS
that is mostly particles.
Scott,
That says it all, very concisely. Thanks for the great definition of ionic
vs. particulate/colloidal.
Scott,
Sorry to disagree with you but you are full of good oldfashio B.S.
I don't sell a thing and I know that ionic silver is superior. Go back
in you history books and get educated.
Ole Bob :-(
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That is not necessarily true. What I sell is mostly ionic, but I think
that particulate is better for internal use. Ionic may be better for
external use though.
Marshall
sol wrote:
If someone says ionic silver is better, that means they sell CS that
is mostly ionic. If someone says
I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the stomach
immediately and is basically removed from action. What is left is the
particulate, which even though only 10 to 20% the original amount, is
still sufficient to be very effective.
For topical, larger particle, or higher concentration
Marshall,
That is interesting: my personal experience is just the opposite. I make high
ppm CS (about 50 to 60 ppm with PWT) that has some color (light tan to quite
yellow) for external use, but my regular clear to straw color CS of about 10 to
18 ppm seems to work for all internal uses. It
Can I make ionic silver at home or is it done with special equipment and if so
how much do you charge?Jay
Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote:I believe that the ionic combines
with the HCl in the stomach immediately and is basically removed from action.
What is left is the particulate,
Berger,
How do you know that ionic silver is superior? I know that there are people
on this list that claim that both of them work. But until someone does some
real clinical studies (not just petrii dish stuff - bleach works real good in
a petrii dish) then your opinion is just that -- your
: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver
Can I make ionic silver at home or is it done with special equipment and if
so how much do you charge?
Jay
This site claims ionic silver better than colloidal silver, true? What is
the difference?
Thanks,
Sandra
A HREF=http://www.naturesalternatives.com/minerals/silver.html;ionic silver
water nature's antibiotic, ionic silver absorbs better than
colloidal silver/A
Hi Sandra,
This is my understanding:
Ionic silver is silver ions. Silver ions are individual atoms of silver with
an electrical charge.
Particulate silver is silver particles that are bigger than silver atoms and
may or may not have a charge (depending on who you talk to and how late at
night
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