RE: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-30 Thread James-Osborn: Holmes-Junior
Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver Dear Marshall, You said: The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells, allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring ** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite interesting to me. Can you

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-30 Thread Jason Eaton
. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: James-Osborn: Holmes-Junior a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: RE: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver Dr. Robert O. Becker said that it will cause CA cells to revert back to stem cells

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-08 Thread Ode Coyote
No It means that IF silver ions are converted to silver chloride on contact with hydrochloric acid, silver chloride still works...just not as well as silver ions alone. It's not 'taken out of action' though the action is reduced. [by a factor of 10 if the literature is right] ..and

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-08 Thread Ode Coyote
If you make under 5 PPM with LVDC you're probably getting very close to 100% ionic K At 12:44 PM 5/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds. Who has 100% ionic, and what is the ppm? Marshall Peter Brandt wrote: Marshall: I believe

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2003-05-07 Thread tomy thomson
Does it swim in circles??? --- Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote: Catherine wrote: ** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite interesting to me. Can you provide any articles, citations, etc. about this? I have a duck that had her drumstick bone

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Peter Brandt
Marshall: I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the stomach immediately and is basically removed from action. Does this mean that you believe that positive testimonials in regards to 100% ionic silver are placebo when it comes to internal applications and systemic effects? Peter

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds. Who has 100% ionic, and what is the ppm? Marshall Peter Brandt wrote: Marshall: I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the stomach immediately and is basically removed from action. Does this mean that you

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Robb Allen
on cs vs. ionic silver I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds. Who has 100% ionic, and what is the ppm? Marshall Peter Brandt wrote: Marshall: I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the stomach immediately and is basically removed from

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
that really doesn't prove anything. Marshall - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver I am not aware of any 100% ionic silver except for silver compounds

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Robert Berger
Hi EIS'ers. I know that there is an abundance of belief that CS turns to AgCl in the stomach. To Ole Bob that is a BUNCH of baloney. The idea of applying inorganic chemistry to an organic situation is pure stupidity. Sorry if I offend some of you but no one knows what reactions take place in

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Robb Allen
Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver Robb Allen wrote: The tests that I had done on my silver after adding h2o2 showed that it was 100% ionic

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-07 Thread Robert Berger
Marshall, When Frank Key tested some of my HVAC EIS he measured it a 99.4% ionic. the PPM was 15. The extra wide anode LVDC makes 98+ ionic at 35 ppm. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at:

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2003-05-06 Thread Tad Winiecki
Catherine wrote: ** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite interesting to me. Can you provide any articles, citations, etc. about this? I have a duck that had her drumstick bone crushed right above the joint, and then lost blood return from her foot so that the foot

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-03 Thread MARIANO DELISE
- From: ascottsil...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver Berger, How do you know that ionic silver is superior? I know that there are people on this list that claim that both of them work. But until

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-03 Thread MARIANO DELISE
...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver Dear Marshall, You said: The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells, allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-03 Thread Bill Missett
Great reports, but do you mean scar as in scar tissue? - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver I saw it with my own two eyes: !. Had a stock boy rip

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
Colloidal silver made by the LVDC method which is what you would be using is typically about 90% ionic and 10% particulate. Marshall Jay Ice wrote: Can I make ionic silver at home or is it done with special equipment and if so how much do you charge?Jay Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread Robert Berger
Jay, Almost all CS made at home is mostly ionic. Ionic silver can be determined mostly by a very weak TE, and with a 15 to 20 reading on your PWT. :Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at:

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread C Creel
Dear Marshall, You said: The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells, allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring ** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite interesting to me. Can you provide any articles, citations, etc. about

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread Robert Berger
Mr. Scott, Please go to www.silverlon.com and read it VERY carefully. The patented and FDA approved silverlon bandage is metalic silver aqueously plated on to a nylon web. The metallic silver in contact with an open wound will generate ionic silver as they indicate. Look at the pictures of the

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread Marshall Dudley
The Body Electric by Robert Becker. Marshall C Creel wrote: Dear Marshall, You said: The ionic is what will allow the injured cells to revert to stem cells, allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring ** This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread Robert Berger
Scott, go to my web site and read the thumbnsil of my background. I have the tail feathers to back up what I say. www.hvacsilver.com Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread Robert Berger
Catherine, Go to www.silverlon.com and read it carefully !!! You will find the answer, also Dr Becker's patent on attaching silver electrodes to an incision and applying less than one volt for fast healing. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread sol
Does anyone know or believe with reason that basic homemade CS of about 10 ppm, nebulized, would help lung tumors? I am going to do an archive search, but thought I'd post as well. TIA, paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread AScottSilver
Dear Mr. Berger, I went to the web site you suggested and read it VERY carefully. I found the following sentence Due to the differing experimental procedures, conclusions are difficult at best. I was not asking you to validate the fact that ionic or particulate silver works, I was asking you

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-02 Thread AScottSilver
better too. Best wishes, Andy (^_^) Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver From: Robert Berger Scott, go to my web site and read the thumbnsil of my background. I have the tail feathers to back up what I say. www.hvacsilver.com Ole Bob

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread sol
If someone says ionic silver is better, that means they sell CS that is mostly ionic. If someone says particulate silver is better, that means they sell CS that is mostly particles. Scott, That says it all, very concisely. Thanks for the great definition of ionic vs. particulate/colloidal.

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread Robert Berger
Scott, Sorry to disagree with you but you are full of good oldfashio B.S. I don't sell a thing and I know that ionic silver is superior. Go back in you history books and get educated. Ole Bob :-( -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is not necessarily true. What I sell is mostly ionic, but I think that particulate is better for internal use. Ionic may be better for external use though. Marshall sol wrote: If someone says ionic silver is better, that means they sell CS that is mostly ionic. If someone says

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the stomach immediately and is basically removed from action. What is left is the particulate, which even though only 10 to 20% the original amount, is still sufficient to be very effective. For topical, larger particle, or higher concentration

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread sol
Marshall, That is interesting: my personal experience is just the opposite. I make high ppm CS (about 50 to 60 ppm with PWT) that has some color (light tan to quite yellow) for external use, but my regular clear to straw color CS of about 10 to 18 ppm seems to work for all internal uses. It

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread Jay Ice
Can I make ionic silver at home or is it done with special equipment and if so how much do you charge?Jay Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote:I believe that the ionic combines with the HCl in the stomach immediately and is basically removed from action. What is left is the particulate,

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread AScottSilver
Berger, How do you know that ionic silver is superior? I know that there are people on this list that claim that both of them work. But until someone does some real clinical studies (not just petrii dish stuff - bleach works real good in a petrii dish) then your opinion is just that -- your

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-05-01 Thread sol
: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver Can I make ionic silver at home or is it done with special equipment and if so how much do you charge? Jay

CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-04-30 Thread JSHAMMAH1
This site claims ionic silver better than colloidal silver, true? What is the difference? Thanks, Sandra A HREF=http://www.naturesalternatives.com/minerals/silver.html;ionic silver water nature's antibiotic, ionic silver absorbs better than colloidal silver/A

Re: CSquestion on cs vs. ionic silver

2003-04-30 Thread AScottSilver
Hi Sandra, This is my understanding: Ionic silver is silver ions. Silver ions are individual atoms of silver with an electrical charge. Particulate silver is silver particles that are bigger than silver atoms and may or may not have a charge (depending on who you talk to and how late at night