Wil  and List,

Wil shared with me directly the results of using echinacea for cryptococcal
meningitis.  He noted my apparent discomfort with anecdotal evidence.
Thanks for sharing  Wil.  That's an impressive story.

I don't have a problem with anecdotes and testimonials per se.  With a
mother who was actively interested in nutrition and supplements when I was
still a teenager 25 years ago, and 20+ years with a wife who actively
believes in herbs and homeopathics and has used them to great advantage on
our family, including echichnacea, cloves, garlic, golden seal, camomile,
and who knows how many other things, I reluctantly came to believe in
herbs, homeopathics, nutritional supplements, etc.  I feel very little risk
in taking most of the commercial products because I feel that they are
unlikely to be harmful.  Too many people have taken them before and if
there were a major adverse reaction I suspect that these remedies would
have gotten lots of attention very quickly from the people who'd like to
ban them.  They don't need a very big excuse to work at limiting
availability of these substances.  So I feel that at worst they have no
lasting negative impacts and at best they are beneficial.

But I believe that these anecdotes and testimonies are just the beginning
of the story.  I think we need to really try to understand how and why
things work.  We need to do so for three reasons:
First, some things are more beneficial than others and we need to be able
to rank effectiveness.  It's not enough to say that something is good for a
given illness or hurt.  We need to try to understand how good and we need
to be able to compare it to something else that has been shown to be
beneficial.  We also need to know if there are things that make a given
herb or remedy even more potent.  We need to understand if there are points
at which too much of a good thing has negative side effects.
Second, we need to be sure that the treatment actually works.  If I told
you that mercury was good for reducing fevers and that  extremely minute
particles of the mercury pass through the glass when taking one's
temperature and that the success of this treatment method can be proven by
seeing how many people's temperatures eventually dropped after taking their
temperatures several times a day with a mercury based thermometer, some
idiot might figure that more is better and try taking mercury internally
from a broken thermometer. [WARNING!  THIS IS OBVIOUSLY POPPYCOCK!  DON'T
ANYONE FOLLOW THIS ADVICE.  I'M JUST MAKING WHAT I HOPE IS AN OBVIOUSLY
FALSE CLAIM TO MAKE A POINT.]  Somebody else, who has a dangerously high
fever, might not get the help they need because they rely on an incorrect
statistical evidence.
Third, I believe that it is too easy for certain things to be labelled as
cure-alls.  If we can't show in a controlled experiment that they work, and
do it repeatedly with different subjects, then we may not be helping
someone and may even be hurting them (one man's food may be another's
poison - just think of allergies).  I worry about some substances being
treated like snake-oil (both in terms of losing credibility for a
beneficial product and in terms of giving false hope or even doing damage).

It is my desire to confirm with a high degree of confidence that Colloidal
Silver actually eliminates bacteria which are harmful to humans (and/or
animals) without doing damage to the human body.  Based on anecdotal
evidence I think that there is something here worth pursuing.  I'm even
taking CS myself to see what  I can learn (so far it helps my bad breath).
However, I find the claims to be so broad and in some cases contradictory
that I am not willing to accept broad claims at face value.  Furthermore, I
don't believe it is too hard to test the claim that CS kills all bad
bacteria.  All I need is one known bad bacteria that I can recognize under
a microscope.  If CS doesn't kill it, I've just proven that CS is not a
100% sure killer of all bad bacteria.  If it does, all I really know is
that it kills that one, but it is a start and it supports the theory.  Over
time, I will need to test it time and time again against different
bacteria.  I'll need to test different concentrations of CS.  There is a
lifetime of work to be done.  But if I try five different bacteria and it
doesn't do much good on any of them, then my interest in it will probably
die the death I wished upon the bacteria.

Right now, my interest is in finding a way to run the test myself or have
it done in a compentent manner that I trust.  Some of you have been kind
enough to provide me with some initial references.  This will help me to
figure out how to run my own tests to confirm them.

For those who ask why I tend to trust pharmaceutical preparations, the
answer is first of all, I don't.  But, like  with herbs and homeopathics, I
feel that the downside risk has been mitigated by many tests and at least
most of the possible  side effects are known.  They do have the benefit of
rigorous study.  Many substances don't get by the FDA because of the
required testing.  This is both good and bad, but it's hard to have your
cake and eat it too.  If I try a drug and it doesn't work or I'm
uncomfortable with the side effects, I stop taking it.  I do the same with
herbs and homeopathics.

Bob Wells
Signed by : Robert Wells
Signed on : 06/30/98 15:11:22
Certifier : North American Users Certifier - Flat