7-bit on input was good (so 8N1 was popular).
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> From: Zane Healy
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:23:28 -0700
>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:29 AM, Richard Cornwell wrote:
>> I am pleased to announce a new set of simulators for the PDP10 series of
>> computers by DEC. The simulators currently run the PDP6, KA10 and KI10. I
>> will be adding the KL10
> Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 00:06:29 -0400
> From: Richard Cornwell
>
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 23:52:00 -0400 (EDT)
> Rich Alderson wrote:
>> WAITS never ran on a bare KA-10. The PDP-6/KA-10, later the
>> PDP-6/KA-10/KL-10, then the KA-10/KL-10, and finally the bare KL
> From: Zane Healy
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 09:10:32 -0700
> The PDP-6 list sounds good, is there any other software still available? For
> the KA10, TENEX and WAITS would be the most interesting.
WAITS never ran on a bare KA-10. The PDP-6/KA-10, later the PDP-6/KA-10/KL-10,
then the
> From: Johnny Billquist
> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 01:23:37 +0200
> On 2018-07-17 14:01, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
>> The ITS restoration team is getting ready to hook up eight (simulated)
>> Unibuses to a (SIMH) PDP-10. The MIT AI KA10 machine really did this,
>> and we want some of the
re than 15 years now) included the following line in any
PDP-10 initialization script, to change the console escape for ^\ (the expected
character on the KS-10 and KL-10 front end processors):
d wru 034
I suggest that anyone experimenting with the PDP-10 make that same change.
> From: Johnny Billquist
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:24:41 +0200
> On 2018-04-12 23:49, Bob Supnik wrote:
>> Enforcing configuration restrictions (for example, no mixing of disks
>> and tapes on the same channel) is yet more work.
> Uh... Which should not be done to start
> From: Quentin North
> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:15:05 +
> Im trying to get the BCPL compiler on TOPS-10 going and I have the install CTL
> file which sets out the following pre-requisites:
> ; THE FOLLOWING MODS TO THE SYSTEM/CUSPS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE SMOOTH ;
>
> From: Timothe Litt
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:15:28 -0500
> Overlays were used to compensate for limited virtual address space.
ITYM "Overlays were used to compensate for limited address space."
I first encountered the notion of overlays in IBM 1401 and System/360 programs.
> From: Carey Tyler Schug
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 10:41:11 -0600
> I had always been told it was first written in some proprietary DEC list
> processing language, and only later converted to FORTRAN. Is this the
> original conversion?
You have been misinformed, or you
> From: Clem Cole
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:21:36 -0500
> My point was less on PL/1 and more to the point that Ken had access to BCPL
> and did not have BLISS. But he still decided to create what would become
> B.
Ken had no tools for the PDP-7, which was part of a Graphics-1
> From: Paul Koning
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:33:30 -0500
>> On Jan 29, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
>> ... One can argue, why did Ken not just build something more like BCPL
>> instead of B? I can not say, maybe the brevity of { } from PL/1
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:35:18 -0600
> From: Hunter Goatley
> On 1/26/2018 2:22 PM, Timothe Litt wrote:
>> BLISS would have done better in the outside world, except for the
>> DECision to price it higher than the market would bear.
> Indeed! I was fortunate to get
> From: Lars Brinkhoff <l...@nocrew.org>
> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 09:42:45 +0000
> Rich Alderson wrote:
>> only 3 systems ran WAITS: SU-AI at SAIL, a KL-10 system attached to
>> the S-1 project at Lawrence Livermore Labs, and a Foonly F2 at CCRMA
> Are you sure the
> From: Johnny Billquist
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 01:01:11 +0100
> So I would assume it at least performs similar to a real RP07, which is
> nice. Seek times will obviously almost always be better on todays disks.
> As long as transfer rates are acceptable, then this is a very
> From: Johnny Billquist
> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:12:45 +0100
> Rich. This is a nice thing. Thanks.
Thanks, Johnny.
> I have one question/wish, though.
> I don't know if you were aware of a device called the RM06. This was a
> Massbus disk created by Shelby, which was
Happy DEC-10 Day!
It is my honor to announce that we at Living Computers: Museum + Labs
are releasing to the computing community our Massbus Disk Emulator
and all the associated software. This device connects via Massbus
cables to the RH10 and RH20 interfaces on KI-10 and KL-10 systems, to
the
JAMES FEHLINGER posted the following to the ClassicCmp
mailing list. I don't see anyone forwarding it (yet).
Rich
-Original Message-
From: cctalk On Behalf Of JAMES FEHLINGER
Sent: Wednesday, May
05-APR-;7
hello
TIME: 0.02 SECS.
READY
save test.bas
READY
old test.bas
READY
It looks as though it's an issue with the BASIC distributed with TOPS-20,
rather than a KLH10 or Panda distribution problem. Have you tried it on
a SimH KS-10 (bringing the question back to relevance for thi
> From: Ethan Dicks
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:21:54 -0400
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Gary Lee Phillips
> wrote:
>> Looking at what images I can find on the web, TU-80 seems correct. The one
>> we had was just generally flaky, I guess. It
with?
Rich
--- Start of forwarded message ---
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:55:55 -0500
From: Rich Alderson <s...@alderson.users.panix.com>
Subject: Re: [Simh] Announcement: back10
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:34:45 WET
> From: Johnny Eriksson <b...@cafax.se&
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:42:00 +0100
> Johnny Eriksson wrote:
>> This is very much a work-in-progress, so things might change. If
>> you have any opinion on how things should work, please let me know.
> If there's one thing I'd wish for, it would be
> From: Al Kossow <a...@bitsavers.org>
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:07:59 -0800
> On 1/16/17 12:02 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
>> I don't recall any mention of CMU in his story, but perhaps the other person
>> was from CMU. I can ask him, of course.
> "Computer
om CMU. I can ask him, of course.
Rich
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> From: Pascal Parent
> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 22:55:48 -0700
> I installed TOPS-20 V4.1 and COBOL-74 12C in SIMH. However, I am running
> into an error when trying to run the XT74 sample in UETP.LIB.
> I also installed Cobol 12C from the same tape on the Panda Distribution
> From: Johnny Billquist
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 03:11:05 +0200
> In fact, I would probably suggest Ray start with just writing some code
> to do some simple things without looking at existing code. The first
> thing needed would be to just have something that can load
> From: Ray Jewhurst
> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 10:44:05 -0400
> I know that RT-11 is under license from Mentec
No, you don't. Mentec has not existed for many years now. The remains
of the PDP-11 intellectual property have been in the hands of XX2247 for
several years.
CC'd to the SimH mailing list so that everyone sees that there is an answer to
the question, not just a complaint from an old fart.
> From: Cory Smelosky <b...@gewt.net>
> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:34:50 -0700
> On Oct 4, 2016, at 10:57, Rich Alderson <s...@alderson.user
> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:05:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Cory Smelosky
> This is somewhat OT, but you people are honestly the best people to ask.
Why bother the SimH community, most of whom seem to be interested in Vaxen or
PDP-11s these days, when alt.sys.pdp10 is readily available?
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 20:43:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Cory Smelosky
> I've heard and seen anecdotes of people having run TOPS-20 5.x on a KS10,
> does anyone know how it was done, or done it themselves?
As far as I know, exactly 1 person, and 1 person only, ever ran Tops-20 v5.4
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 19:54:22 -0400
> From: Richard Cornwell
>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 18:07:15 -0400
>>> From: Richard Cornwell
>>> I am asking for feedback on how to handle Punched card input. I am
>>> wondering about how to handle the
re be anything to
be truncated or continued in a read?
Rich
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P.S. It later turned out that we had it on an uncatalogued mag tape in the
PGA collection. Not a wasted effort, because I know way more than I
ever thought I'd want to about KI/KL paging.
Rich Alderson, emeritus curator
Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Comput
> From: Johnny Billquist
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 23:57:38 +0200
> On 2016-04-20 20:48, Ken Cornetet wrote:
>> Again, you don't need OS support for foreign file systems, you just need to
>> be able to read the disk blocks in a raw mode.
> And what Rich said (again) is that you
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 17:04:18 +
> From: sky...@sky-visions.com
> For example the B5500 does not have the concept of a mountable pack.
> Drives could be attached, but they were a permanent attachment. For the
> Ibm 7000 line, most did not support disk. The disk drive that was
> supported
> From: "Robert Thomas"
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:07:14 -0400
> This procedure doesn't re-establish the factory defaults. It is one of those
> flawed designs that occasionally slip through to cut costs with unexpected
> consequences. The 90L and 90L+ are the only
> From: "Robert Thomas"
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:37:09 -0400
> The comment with respect to the power/power on sequence is to allow for the
> authorize password change. If one doesn't cycle power immediately after
> changing the password, the change is ignored.
> Given the
http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/network/dsrvdom1.pdf
> From: "Robert Thomas"
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 15:47:00 -0400
> I know that this is off topic, but we do communicate with Decservers from the
> SIMH microvax simulator. We bought a replacement
> From: "Bill Cunningham"
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:23:35 -0500
> I have been studying the best way to copy from a vax simulator with =
> openvms to a linux host, text files. The Docs look like telnet and =
> kermit are the way to do it. So is there not a device
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 18:31:35 +0100
> From: Mattis Lind
> We have a bunch of documents related to PDP-15 and XVM/DOS. Some of them
> does not appear to be present on bitsavers. If there are interest we will
> try to make an effort and have them scanned.
>
> From: Paul Koning
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:01:02 -0500
[in response to a statement that only the PDP-11 and VAX simulators have
networking support]
> pdp10 does, also.
I had to go look at the documentation for this. I see that the DEUNA/DELUA is
emulated, but
> From: Timothe Litt
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 20:47:45 -0500
> Below is a list of all the disks that have been used with FILES-11 (ODS2) for
> which I have reliable (I think) data.
> The list has blank spots for a lot of disks that I know exist, but for which I
> don't have
> From: Clem Cole
> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:04:30 -0500
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> I suspect MSCP came before SCSI.
> I agree. In DEC's case, support for MSCP certainly was first, but I
> believe the protocols are
> From: "Robert Thomas"
> Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:37:19 -0500
> When I was in graduate school at Princeton in 1974, we used UNIX on a
> PDP-11/45 running Tex to typeset faculty papers, as well as writing compilers
> using lex and yacc and studying operating system and
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:48:48 -0500
> From: Michael Kerpan
> I've been hoping for a KL simulation in SIMH for a while. KLH10 lacks
> support for things like serial over Telnet which means that multiuser
> is essentially impossible on KLH10 without all kinds of networking
> From: Paul Koning
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:02:26 -0500
> Still, the amazing part is that RT on DECtape actually works. It's the only
> DEC OS I know of for which that is true.
I know that RSX-11M works on DECtape, at least in the form of RSX-20F, the
variant used
> From: Mark Pizzolato
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:00:19 -0800
> Meanwhile, the 'crude' way to exchange data on most simulators can
> actually be done with cut and paste in console or telnet sessions.
While I do use c for command lines from time to time, I've never found it
> From: Will Senn
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:35:06 -0600
> How can I efficiently copy files from my host system to unix version 6
> running in the pdp11 emulator and from unix 6 to my host system?
You have gotten a number of answers, but none of them strikes me as the
best
> From: Al Kossow
> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:52:27 -0800
> On 11/12/15 5:25 AM, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
>> DEC's DECserver, Xyplex Maxserver, Annex terminal servers, and Xylogics
>> (for the ones I have touched and remember) all converted telnet into real
>> RS/EIA-232
> From: Bob Supnik
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:52:14 -0400
> The UC15 supported a variety of PDP11 peripherals, but the only ones
> that matter are thethe RK11/18b, and the LP11. A console port was
> available for debugging, and sometimes a paper tape reader was added for
>
From: Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimballelectronics.com
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:55:06 +
Perl has goto. Just sayin'
*Pascal* has goto.
Writing a VAX basic to perl translator sounds like fun, and when you are
done, you'd have learned a usable language.
Yes, and one in which white space
From: Bill Cunningham bill...@suddenlink.net
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:56:06 -0400
I remember those floppy drives where big and heavy. I never had cp/m or
a c128. I am reading that an 8502 and Z80A (which I can't find anything
on) was inside. The Z80A was about 4 MHz. The Z80A word size I do
From: Phil Budne p...@ultimate.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:12:57 -0400
Rich Alderson s...@alderson.users.panix.com wrote:
On 27-Apr-15 14:56, Cory Smelosky wrote:
...This is getting absurd. Just how many stacks exist?!
BBN had a TENEX stack. Not sure if DEC's started with it.
I think
Wandering further afield for a moment, I just want to point out that the KI-10
at Living Computer Museum has 2 sets of serial lines. The publicly accessible
ones run at 9600bps via a DN87 connected to a DL10; the others, used for admin
connections internally, run at 2400bps through a DC10A/DC10F.
At several points in the discussion, the KL-10 has come up as an
example of a system with a PDP-11 front end processor. Reference
has been made to shared memory between the -11 and the PDP-10
engine which is the main reason for the existence of the system.
The PDP-11/40 front end and the PDP-10
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:33:05 -0700
From: Mark Abene phi...@phiber.com
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Al Kossow a...@bitsavers.org wrote:
On 6/10/14 3:28 AM, Quentin North wrote:
I saw this job advertised in Seattle which may be of interest to members
of the list
Tim,
If you're out there, please contact me off-line. I have some questions only
you have the answers to.
Thanks,
Rich Alderson
From: G. gerr...@mail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:01:00 +0100
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:16:20 -0800, Mark Abene wrote:
By chance, does anyone have a tape image of PSI for TOPS-20 v7? I want to
get X.25 connectivity going. Probably a long shot, but doesn't hurt to ask.
Both Trailing Edge
From: Robert Jarratt robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 23:33:36 +0100
Can anyone point me at the right place to look at TOPS-20 driver code for
the KMC11? I can see that it is trying to get the Microprocessor to do
something and read back some values, but I don't know what
... let's make sure SIMH and its fellow emulators like
MAME / MESS can still be enjoyed and understood by future generations.
Amen!
Rich Alderson
Living Computer Museum
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distribution on the PI disk image (which you will have to convert to SimH
format with the KLH10 tools).
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written in MDL (a Lisp dialect) on the Dynamic
Modeling Lab PDP-10 at MIT. The Fortran translation of that game, known as
Dungeon, was done by an anonymous engineer at DEC (reputedly someone we all
know on this mailing list).
Rich
, Jason,
There are any number of minimal Linux distros available using the latest
kernels. Why travel so far back in time for the base platform? Why not
reserve those impulses for the systems we love to emulate? ;-)
Rich Alderson
manual.
Hope that helps.
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:34:00 +0800
From: Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com
The docs say that the TC11/TU56 DECtape drives are device DT. In reality it
seems they are TC.
On what operating system?
Rich
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:34:46 +0800
From: Fernan Bolando fernanbola...@mailc.net
anybody have an updated method of transferring files to ITS/simh?
Updated with respect to what? As far as I've been able to determine, one can
manipulate the Ruby script created by the genminsys script to pick
discussion. It's going along
just fine.
(You never answered my question, for example.)
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:08:01 +0200
From: dott.Piergiorgio dott.piergior...@fastwebnet.it
(looking to the DECTape marks issue, for example)
What is the DECtape marks issue? The DECtape emulation in SimH does not
simulate the mark track on a DECtape, so I don't understand how there could
be
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:45:32 -0400
From: sho...@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Rich asks:
So, do I understand correctly that I can attach one of these .dsk files
to a drive in a SimH PDP11 instance, run RSX-11M or RSTS/E, and FLX will
do the right thing with it? Or is there other magic
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:01:50 -0700
From: Carl Lowenstein carl.lowenst...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe be...@math.utah.edu
wrote:
This new paper on the history of Unix may be of interest to
some readers; getting the PDF from the DOI may require an
IEEE
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