Probably
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
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>> On 10/10/16 10:12 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
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>> Actually before I would join UCB as a grad student, I
>> had written and donated the extended memo
On 10 October 2016 at 10:21, Clem Cole wrote:
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> Back to the question, the 4.1BSD release does support the 750 and
> probably ran on more 750's then anything else but that may have been a
> patch after the original release (I'd have to check my tapes). We did have
> a lot of them at BSD and
On 10/10/16 10:12 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
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> Actually before I would join UCB as a grad student, I
> had written and donated the extended memory stuff for the a number of
> processors (60, 44) as well as the ENABLE which
> landed in there somewhere, (ENABLE allowed you have up to 4M of memory
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Ray Jewhurst
wrote:
> I just wanted to clarify that I am interested in all of the BSDs. I just
> started with 3BSD because I am already somewhat familiar with 29BSD and
> 211BSD. So I thought it would be a good transition.
>
Ah I think you fell into the Berkeley
Ultrix would be different than BSD. Ultrix was done by DEC in Merrimack
(Original in TIG - Telephone Industry Group). Originally all UNIX
"support" was a special for a customer - AT&T. When DEC finally decided
to compete in the UNIX biz, Ultrix became a first class OS and a product.
The key i
I just wanted to clarify that I am interested in all of the BSDs. I just
started with 3BSD because I am already somewhat familiar with 29BSD and
211BSD. So I thought it would be a good transition.
On Oct 10, 2016 12:02 PM, "Ethan Dicks" wrote:
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrot
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Henry Bent wrote:
> 4.2BSD kernel conf has settings for the 780, 750, and 730, and the generic
> kernel ought to boot on any of those. 4.1C BSD has the same kernel conf
> settings as 4.2 (no surprise there). Vanilla 4.1 looks like it will only
> support the 780,
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote:
> Meanwhile, Ray's original question was about installing 3BSD, which I think
> may have existed before the VAX 11/750 was available/supported...
Back in the day, we ran a variety of UNIX distros on our 11/750 w/2MB
of RAM and 2x RK07. I reme
The key point for a simh person - while Mark and Bob allow you to
put together
configurations in simh that may or may not have never been realized and
often they will "just work" --- you really need to match not just the HW by
the timeframe of the release of that HW with the timeframe of the rel
Mark is right, just RTFM. But as far as Unix goes here's a brief mix of my
experience, my memory, and very quickly looking through some sources:
4.2BSD kernel conf has settings for the 780, 750, and 730, and the generic
kernel ought to boot on any of those. 4.1C BSD has the same kernel conf
sett
On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Oh, and another comment. More general, but anyway...
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> DEC did not really expect that tapes would be booted from on VAXen, so they
> did not provide any standard way to boot in this way. For the
> VAX-11/780 for example, if you got
On 2016-10-10 01:55, Ray Jewhurst wrote:
On Oct 9, 2016 7:49 PM, "Johnny Billquist" mailto:b...@softjar.se>> wrote:
And I take it that they would be different because of different
interrupt vectors etc?
Interrupt vectors might very well be different too, yes. However, most
of these routin
Oh, and another comment. More general, but anyway...
DEC did not really expect that tapes would be booted from on VAXen, so
they did not provide any standard way to boot in this way. For the
VAX-11/780 for example, if you got VMS on tape, you were expected to
boot a small standalone version of
On Oct 9, 2016 7:49 PM, "Johnny Billquist" wrote:
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And I take it that they would be different because of different interrupt
vectors etc?
>However, the instructions as such are the same on the different models,
and that is not the reason for the problem.
>
> However, the controllers and bus ad
Ray, not a problem.
And to make it clear, yes they are instructions. However, the
instructions as such are the same on the different models, and that is
not the reason for the problem.
However, the controllers and bus adapters themselves are different on
the different models, and thus requir
Thank you Johnny. I will look for those documents. To be honest I knew that
the lines of hex were instructions of course but I honestly didn't know
what they were for. I only have tape experience on a then new HP/UX server
and that was over 20 years ago. I would like to thank all of for your
advice
Uh... The bootstrap listed there is for the 11/780. It does not work for
any other model (the 11/785 is just a faster 11/780).
The MtXinu manuals (do anyone have them around) had the bootstraps for
tape on all the old VAXen (11/780, 11/750, 11/730 and 8600).
Johnny
On 2016-10-09 16:4
then those original instructions will map to a simulator pretty
easily.
Have fun.
- Mark
From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Ray Jewhurst
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 7:40 AM
To: simh
Subject: [Simh] Older Model VAX simulators, what can you do with them a
It's been ages since I've updated the gunkies stuff.
I can ask Tore to get you an account if you want to contribute..
I've been meaning to try the other VAX models, I just haven't gotten around to
it yet.
On 09 October 2016 10:40:14 PM GMT+08:00, Ray Jewhurst
wrote:
>Hello everyone,
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>I h
Hello everyone,
I have use the VAX 11/780-5 simulator for quite some time now and feel
pretty comfortable with them so I thought I would play around with the
other pre-MicroVAX simulators and have had no luck with them. I tried
using the "recipes: from gunkies.org to set up some configurations an
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