[singularity] Re: Reduced activism

2007-08-20 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 8/20/07, Sergey A. Novitsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, in general, I got disenchanted with the concept of Singularity, and > for the following reasons: > - Technology and intelligence is like a double-edged sword. It can serve > both harmony and cooperation, and hostility and predatio

Re: [singularity] Current absence of activism

2007-08-20 Thread Vladimir Nesov
Sunday, August 19, 2007, Joshua Fox wrote: JF> (but please, only well-confirmed reports rather than JF> supposition). Maybe more general question that provides information about the same problem is [why don't you donate/work on it/spread the word, other than due to inability to do so]. So, frame

Re: [singularity] Reduced activism

2007-08-20 Thread Sergey A. Novitsky
Hi, So far, I have donated about a thousand dollars for the Singularity goals, and read several books as well... However, in general, I got disenchanted with the concept of Singularity, and for the following reasons: - Technology and intelligence is like a double-edged sword. It can serve both

Re: [singularity] Re: A consciousness non-contradiction

2007-08-20 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 20/08/07, Aleksei Riikonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/20/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Huh? Are you conscious? > > > > I believe that I am, in the sense that I am not a p-zombie. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil

[singularity] Re: Hurry or not, and what's getting funded by SIAI

2007-08-20 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 8/20/07, Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [...] the deep logical (or: moral) flaws in the >> Singularitarian position. [Please tell us they are.] > > A position that says we should be in a great hurry to get to a state > of affairs that we cannot remotely understand or control and w

[singularity] Re: A consciousness non-contradiction

2007-08-20 Thread Aleksei Riikonen
On 8/20/07, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Samantha Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Huh? Are you conscious? > > I believe that I am, in the sense that I am not a p-zombie. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie > > I also believe that the human brain can be simula