Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-25 Thread Joshua Fox
I wonder if real kook science gets the treatment that the WSJ gave the Singularity Summit? for example, do conferences of "paranormal scientists" get written up in mocking tones in leading media? Even when "creation science" attracts attention in the mainstream media, it is not in these terms. St

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Christophe Devine
Tom McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See > http://www.topix.net/content/ap/2007/09/techies-ponder-computers-smarter-than-us-4. > It's from the Associated Press, so it's written once > and then copy-pasted to news sources all over the > world. This discussion reminds me of a couple videos I saw

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Tom McCabe
--- Artificial Stupidity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who cares? Really, who does? You can't create an > AGI that is friendly or > unfriendly. It's like having a friendly or > unfriendly baby. No, it is not. A baby comes pre-designed by evolution and genetics. An AGI can be custom-written to

RE: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread YOST Andrew
g of good and evil perspective is fundamental. Andrew Yost, PhD Forest Ecologist Oregon Dept. of Forestry Salem, OR 97310 503-945-7410 _ From: Artificial Stupidity [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:12 PM To: singularity@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [singula

RE: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Tom McCabe
See http://www.topix.net/content/ap/2007/09/techies-ponder-computers-smarter-than-us-4. It's from the Associated Press, so it's written once and then copy-pasted to news sources all over the world. - Tom --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Near the beginning of this discussion, reference is > made t

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Richard Loosemore
Artificial Stupidity wrote: Who cares? Really, who does? You can't create an AGI that is friendly or unfriendly. It's like having a friendly or unfriendly baby.How do you prevent the next Hitler, the next Saddam, the next Osama, and so on and so forth? A friendly society is a good st

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Nuzzolilo
"Artificial Stupidity", You're making a lot of wild assumptions here, and I am not sure what you are driving at. You can't compare "good or bad" machines with "good or bad" humans. Do you have a serious, genuine interest in AGI? I would hope so, or why would you be here? It takes awhile to und

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Artificial Stupidity
Who cares? Really, who does? You can't create an AGI that is friendly or unfriendly. It's like having a friendly or unfriendly baby.How do you prevent the next Hitler, the next Saddam, the next Osama, and so on and so forth? A friendly society is a good start. Evil doesn't evolve in the

RE: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread stolzy
Near the beginning of this discussion, reference is made to the generally poor mainstream press response to the recent Singularity conference. Does anyone have link(s) to any general press reviews, journalistic coverage, etc? I haven't had much luck in locating any and would like to get a sen

RE: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- YOST Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry, what is AGI again? Artificial General Intelligence, as opposed to AI, which is usually meant as applied to problems in a narrow scope. AGI means doing all or most of what the human brain can do. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

RE: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-24 Thread YOST Andrew
I'm sorry, what is AGI again? Andrew Yost, PhD Forest Ecologist Oregon Dept. of Forestry Salem, OR 97310 503-945-7410 _ From: Derek Zahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:02 AM To: singularity@v2.listbox.com Subject: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-23 Thread Joshua Fox
Perhaps some historians of science have analyzed earlier cases in which leading journalists not only dismissed, but actively mocked, potential significant inventions which later were realized. (There is the standard futurist list of one-liners; but I'd like to see more depth.) It would be interest

Re: [singularity] Benefits of being a kook

2007-09-22 Thread Richard Loosemore
Derek Zahn wrote: This message is "semi-serious". The latest SIAI blog laments the apparently dismissive attitude of mainstream media toward the singularity summit (and presumably the concept in general, and SIAI itself by extension). Maybe it's not the worst thing thing that could happen