Re: [Sip-implementors] how to identify a RTP session

2008-11-27 Thread Evgeniy Khramtsov
Rockson Li (zhengyli) wrote: >Hi folks, > >Recently, I am confused on the identity of a RTP session. > >per RFC3550 > > RTP session: An association among a set of participants > communicating with RTP. ... A participant distinguishes > multiple RTP sessions by reception of differe

[Sip-implementors] how to identify a RTP session

2008-11-27 Thread Rockson Li (zhengyli)
Hi folks, Recently, I am confused on the identity of a RTP session. per RFC3550 RTP session: An association among a set of participants communicating with RTP. ... A participant distinguishes multiple RTP sessions by reception of different sessions using different pairs

Re: [Sip-implementors] Error 415 from voicemail server to PBX

2008-11-27 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Fernando Mercês wrote: > Thank you, Paul. > > Other fact is that 415 error must send a list of acceptable codecs, > types and languages (like RFC says) but my 415 do not send this list. > So, it's really misused by voicemail erver. > > I'm trying to change some parameters from my PBX to see the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Can SessionTimers be users just by UAS/callee?

2008-11-27 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 27 de Noviembre de 2008, Michael Procter escribió: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > Hi, I've read Session Timers RFC but it's a bit confusing for me. I've a > > basic doubt: > > > >alice proxy bob > > > > - alice calls bob. > > - proxy doesn't implement SessionTimers (in the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Can SessionTimers be users just by UAS/callee?

2008-11-27 Thread Michael Procter
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > Hi, I've read Session Timers RFC but it's a bit confusing for me. I've a > basic > doubt: > >alice proxy bob > > - alice calls bob. > - proxy doesn't implement SessionTimers (in the way a proxy could implement > it). > - bob implements SessionTimers and

[Sip-implementors] Can SessionTimers be users just by UAS/callee?

2008-11-27 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, I've read Session Timers RFC but it's a bit confusing for me. I've a basic doubt: alice proxy bob - alice calls bob. - proxy doesn't implement SessionTimers (in the way a proxy could implement it). - bob implements SessionTimers and want to use them. In this scenario, can Sess

Re: [Sip-implementors] Error 415 from voicemail server to PBX

2008-11-27 Thread Fernando Mercês
Thank you, Paul. Other fact is that 415 error must send a list of acceptable codecs, types and languages (like RFC says) but my 415 do not send this list. So, it's really misused by voicemail erver. I'm trying to change some parameters from my PBX to see the results, but without sucess yet. I don

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Evgeniy Khramtsov
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > I think it's a bad specification in RFC 3261. No. This is a classical problem of protocol encoding rules. SIP doesn't separate encoding rule from the data structures it operate (the same is in XMPP). That's because there is a lot of broken parsers - implementers ju

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 27 de Noviembre de 2008, Pandurangan R S escribió: > I can see that RFC 3261 defines it correctly > > uri-parameter     =  transport-param / user-param / method-param >                      / ttl-param / maddr-param / lr-param / other-param > > > lr-param          =  "lr" > > Even other-

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Attila Sipos
>>I think it's a bad specification in RFC 3261. It defines parameters as: >> >> ;pname=pvalue that's not true, the grammar says: other-param = pname [ "=" pvalue ] People should (generally) write their parsers from the grammar. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Pandurangan R S
I can see that RFC 3261 defines it correctly uri-parameter = transport-param / user-param / method-param / ttl-param / maddr-param / lr-param / other-param lr-param = "lr" Even other-param is defined as follows (with optional value parameter) other-param

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 27 de Noviembre de 2008, Attila Sipos escribió: > I guess it's because just about all other parameters have a value, so > people wrote their parsers to expect ";some_parameter=some_value" and then > when they came across ";lr", they thought, "my parser won't like this, so > I'll just sti

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 27 de Noviembre de 2008, Rockson Li (zhengyli) escribió: > When I first encounter the issue is interworking with openser server, > which adds lr=on, but I don't know who is the original author of this > behavior. No, default behaviour is not adding value to "lr". It's optional: 1.4.1.

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Attila Sipos
I guess it's because just about all other parameters have a value, so people wrote their parsers to expect ";some_parameter=some_value" and then when they came across ";lr", they thought, "my parser won't like this, so I'll just stick a value in there". Of course, that's pure speculation. But

Re: [Sip-implementors] Why so many implementations expect "; lr=on" or "; lr=yes" instead of just "; lr"?

2008-11-27 Thread Victor Pascual Ávila
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Rockson Li (zhengyli) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I first encounter the issue is interworking with openser server, > which adds lr=on, but I don't know who is the original author of this > behavior. https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/sip-implementors/20