[Sip-implementors] interfacing with OC-3 equipment

2008-11-28 Thread Pete Kay
Hi, I have written code that can do MTP1,MTP2,MTP3,ISUP, and I tested it with E1 line. What I need to do next is to interface with a OC-3 equipment with a fabric optical link. Does anyone have any pointer on how to starting decoding the OC-3 signal and demultiplex it to E1s? Any pointer on how

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:31 PM > > Actually, there is. Its 'Request-Disposition: no-fork' form RFC 3841. :-) Oh right - wow forgot about that one. How could I forget caller-prefs? ;) -hadriel

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Alex Balashov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:51 PM >> >> I should add here that yes, creating multiple early dialogs works around >> that problem, but I would think it is implicit in the general formul

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
> -Original Message- > From: Alex Balashov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:51 PM > > I should add here that yes, creating multiple early dialogs works around > that problem, but I would think it is implicit in the general formula of > UAC<->UAS interaction th

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Alex Balashov wrote: > Paul Kyzivat wrote: > >> Alex, >> >> If I understand you, you are arguing that either: >> - proxies shouldn't fork at all, or >> - proxies should violate 3261 by not forwarding >> some provisional responses when forking. >> >> In the description, the proxy is acting exac

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
> -Original Message- > From: Alex Balashov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:48 PM > > You're right. Is SDP in non-183 1xx messages particularly common? In 180 Ringing it's not very common, but not rare either. I don't think I've ever seen it another provis

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Alex Balashov wrote: > Alex Balashov wrote: > >>> The B2BUA is basically broken if it sends them all back with the same >>> to-tag but unique SDP, IMO. >> But isn't it just following the rule in 13.3.1.1 that all provisional >> responses *sent by a UAS* must have the same dialog-identifying at

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Alex Balashov
Alex Balashov wrote: >> The B2BUA is basically broken if it sends them all back with the same >> to-tag but unique SDP, IMO. > > But isn't it just following the rule in 13.3.1.1 that all provisional > responses *sent by a UAS* must have the same dialog-identifying attributes? I should add here

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Alex Balashov
Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov >> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:34 PM >> >> The problem is that 183+SDP is not an "ordinary" provisional response >> because it has the potential to en

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sip- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:34 PM > > The problem is that 183+SDP is not an "ordinary" provisional response > because it has the potential to enact media flow, not just provi

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Alex Balashov
Paul Kyzivat wrote: > Alex, > > If I understand you, you are arguing that either: > - proxies shouldn't fork at all, or > - proxies should violate 3261 by not forwarding > some provisional responses when forking. > > In the description, the proxy is acting exactly as it should. And it has > n

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Alex, If I understand you, you are arguing that either: - proxies shouldn't fork at all, or - proxies should violate 3261 by not forwarding some provisional responses when forking. In the description, the proxy is acting exactly as it should. And it has no way of knowing its UAC is actually a

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Alex Balashov
However, my reading of the early media RFC (3960)'s discussion of forking is that it's generally just not considered a good idea to do 183+SDP with forking. Am I wrong? Alex Balashov wrote: > > Iñaki, > > It would seem to me that it is incumbent upon the proxy to insulate the > B2BUA from

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Alex Balashov
Iñaki, It would seem to me that it is incumbent upon the proxy to insulate the B2BUA from the consequences of parallel forking by not creating such a condition, since forking behaviour is a feature that is a defined and specified as a characteristic of proxies rather than B2BUAs. The RFC doe

Re: [Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Yes, I agree with you. This has been discussed before on one of the lists. You can forget all the B2BUA issues and just view the B2BUA as a UAS interacting with A, and ask if what it is doing is valid, without regard to why it is doing it. In addition to the reasons you have given, if the SDP i

[Sip-implementors] Transparent B2BUA and different SDP in responses with same To_tag

2008-11-28 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, I'm reporting a common error in some transparent B2BUA I'm testing. The error is: - The B2BUA receives a request from leg_A and generates a request in leg_B. - leg_B arrives to a proxy that does parallel forking. - The B2BUA receives various provisional responses (183) with different To_tag

Re: [Sip-implementors] Different SDP in same early-dialog (same To_tag)

2008-11-28 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Viernes, 28 de Noviembre de 2008, Rockson Li (zhengyli) escribió: > 13.2.1 Creating the Initial INVITE Thanks ! -- Iñaki Baz Castillo ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/l

Re: [Sip-implementors] Different SDP in same early-dialog (same To_tag)

2008-11-28 Thread Rockson Li (zhengyli)
13.2.1 Creating the Initial INVITE o If the initial offer is in an INVITE, the answer MUST be in a reliable non-failure message from UAS back to UAC which is correlated to that INVITE. For this specification, that is only the final 2xx response to that INVITE. T

Re: [Sip-implementors] Different SDP in same early-dialog (same To_tag)

2008-11-28 Thread Theo Zourzouvillys
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm 100% sure that an UAC receiving two different SDP's during the same > early-dialog (SDP_1 in 183 and SDP_2 in 200) should ignore/discard the second > SDP_2. There is not different SDP in an unreliable provisi

[Sip-implementors] Different SDP in same early-dialog (same To_tag)

2008-11-28 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, I'm 100% sure that an UAC receiving two different SDP's during the same early-dialog (SDP_1 in 183 and SDP_2 in 200) should ignore/discard the second SDP_2. But could I know in which section of RFC 3261 (or other) is it specified? I don't remember it now... Thanks a lot. -- Iñaki Baz Ca

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Security Guidelines

2008-11-28 Thread Dan York
Klaus, Those are the main public documents I am aware of. I am the chair of the VoIP Security Alliance (VOIPSA) Best Practices project which is charged with developing these sort of guidelines but after an initial start a while back, the project hasn't progressed. I am looking to re- start

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Security Guidelines

2008-11-28 Thread Jesus Rodriguez
Hi Klaus, > I am trying to find publications about SIP/VoIP security (risks, > guidelines for software implementors, guidelines for service > providers ...) > > Currently I found: > NIST SP800-58 > draft-ietf-speermint-voipthreats-00 > and some thesis about VoIP security > > Are there other

[Sip-implementors] SIP Security Guidelines

2008-11-28 Thread Klaus Darilion
Hi! I am trying to find publications about SIP/VoIP security (risks, guidelines for software implementors, guidelines for service providers ...) Currently I found: NIST SP800-58 draft-ietf-speermint-voipthreats-00 and some thesis about VoIP security Are there other documents regarding SIP

[Sip-implementors] Regarding Session Privacy

2008-11-28 Thread Pavan Kumar Avala
Hi, Section 5.2.2 and 5.2.3 of Guidelines for using the Privacy mechanism for SIP Draft-munakata-sip-privacy-guideline-02 says that "A privacy service should modify the i, u, e, and p lines to delete the user's identity information when user privacy is requested with Privacy:session."

Re: [Sip-implementors] Can SessionTimers be users just by UAS/callee?

2008-11-28 Thread Victor Pascual Ávila
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I've read Session Timers RFC but it's a bit confusing for me. I've a basic > doubt: > > alice proxy bob > > - alice calls bob. > - proxy doesn't implement SessionTimers (in the way a proxy could impleme

Re: [Sip-implementors] how to identify a RTP session

2008-11-28 Thread Rockson Li (zhengyli)
This actually is a very basic and significant terminology based on which some RFCs are defined unfortunately. Sec 7 of RFC3388 has clearly indicated the identifier of RTP session as IP+ (RTP + RTCP port) This definition assumes that a single audio (or video) stream maps into an RTP sess

Re: [Sip-implementors] how to identify a RTP session

2008-11-28 Thread Johansson Olle E
28 nov 2008 kl. 10.37 skrev Iñaki Baz Castillo: > El Viernes, 28 de Noviembre de 2008, Rockson Li (zhengyli) escribió: >> why there're only three RTP sessions, I think it should be six? >> since "each participant receiving from the other two on separate port >> pairs" >> which means each paritici

Re: [Sip-implementors] how to identify a RTP session

2008-11-28 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Viernes, 28 de Noviembre de 2008, Rockson Li (zhengyli) escribió: > why there're only three RTP sessions, I think it should be six? > since "each participant receiving from the other two on separate port > pairs" > which means each pariticipant should listen on two separate port paris > for inco