Re: [Sip-implementors] Glare condition with BYE and re-INVITE requests

2009-12-09 Thread Dushyant Dhalia
A to send 200 OK of Bye and ACK for 481 (Re-INV). S to send 481. See section 3.2.2 of RFC 5407. Regards, Dushyant P S Dhalia Rancore Technologies, Gurgaon, INDIA Vishal Agrawal wrote: Hi, Assume that phone “A” issues a re-INVITE request to the SIP server “S” and at the same time “S” iss

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Manoj Priyankara [TG]
Hi Palie, Thanks for the information. BR, Manoj -Original Message- From: Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei) [mailto:kpa...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:06 AM To: Manoj Priyankara [TG] Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu; Rajani Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] difference

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Manoj Priyankara [TG]
Hi Tomasz, Greetings! This must be a very useful post, but can not access this from the given URL. If you got it with you, would you mind sharing it with the forum members? Thanks and regards, Manoj -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-imple

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Manoj Priyankara [TG]
Thanks Alok! -Original Message- From: Alok 2 Tiwari [mailto:alok2.tiw...@aricent.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:46 PM To: Manoj Priyankara [TG]; sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers Hi M

Re: [Sip-implementors] Glare condition with BYE and re-INVITE requests

2009-12-09 Thread Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei)
"A" must honor BYE and send 200 OK. Proxy "S" can send 481 or 403. Regards, Kamal Cisco, Bangalore India -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Vishal Agrawal Sent: Thursday, December

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei)
Hi Manoj Here I have put the example in detail how Record-Route, Route plays a role in message routing and how it affects Req-URI. Also a small description on Via. Endpoint A sends a request say INVITE to proxy1, proxy1 forwards it to proxy2 and proxy2 gives that INVITE to endpoint B. Each proxy

Re: [Sip-implementors] Glare condition with BYE and re-INVITE requests

2009-12-09 Thread Paul Kyzivat
IMO it would be inappropriate to send a 491 in this case, because it is not glare, and it is perfectly ok to terminate the dialog. Given that it has sent the BYE, I *think* it would be ok for S to send a 481 to the reinvite. (But I haven't scrutinized the state machines regarding this.) If not

[Sip-implementors] Glare condition with BYE and re-INVITE requests

2009-12-09 Thread Vishal Agrawal
Hi, Assume that phone “A” issues a re-INVITE request to the SIP server “S” and at the same time “S” issues a BYE request to “A”. Is it valid for “A” to send a 491 response to this BYE request from “S”? The SIP INVITE dialog is for a point to point media session. Here is the quote from the Secti

Re: [Sip-implementors] Any real case of a TEL/SIP URI with parameters as user?

2009-12-09 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 9 de Diciembre de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 00:56 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > I just mean SIP/TEL URI's for two purposes: > > > > 1) For user/device SIP identity (I've never seen a SIP AoR containing > > parameters). > > > > 2) The XUI field of XCAP

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Dale Worley
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 23:42 +, Brez Borland wrote: > Dale has a point. I was impressed watching talk dedicated to ipv6 > where major minds behind ipv6 development seemed to be straight > ignorant, or least interested, in the notion of private network > implementations such as NAT. their positio

Re: [Sip-implementors] Any real case of a TEL/SIP URI with parameters as user?

2009-12-09 Thread Dale Worley
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 00:56 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > I just mean SIP/TEL URI's for two purposes: > > 1) For user/device SIP identity (I've never seen a SIP AoR containing > parameters). > > 2) The XUI field of XCAP URI (XUI is the AoR of the user whose document we > desire). > > So I

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Dale Worley
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 17:30 -0500, pvall...@csc.com wrote: > When will that happen to SBCs..:) Actually, SIP works quite well with SBCs, as long as the SBC does not attempt to restrict what features of SIP are used. Unfortunately, many service providers configure their SBCs not only to perform s

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Tomasz Zieleniewski
Hi Manoj, Some time ago I wrote a post that can give some info on this. http://ictbackyard.com/archives/6 Kind regards, - Tomasz Zieleniewski -- ICT Backyard - http://ictbackyard.com 2009/12/9 Manoj Priyankara [TG] > > Dear All, > Can anyone explain the differences

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 9 de Diciembre de 2009, Manoj Priyankara [TG] escribió: > Dear All, > Can anyone explain the differences between Via, Record-Route and Route > headers? Further, are there any other routing related Headers associated > with SIP? RFC 3261. Just it. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo _

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP and RTP over 80 port

2009-12-09 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 9 de Diciembre de 2009, mosbah.abdelkader escribió: > Hello all, > > Has anyone tried to send or receive SIP and RTP over 80 port (HTTP port). Both SIP and RTP over the same port? This is not possible except if you use a VPN working at TCP level. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo __

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Rajani
Refer the below link for a detailed explanation of the header fields. (Thanks to Jan) http://www.openser.org/pipermail/users/2005-September/000839.html Thanks & Regards, Rajani -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists

Re: [Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Alok 2 Tiwari
Hi Manoj, Via is used to route responses whereas Route and Record-Route headers are used to route requests. User agents use Record-Route headers to build Route headers. The other routing related headers are Path header (Refer RFC-3327) and service-route header (Refer RFC-3608). Thanks, Alok Ti

[Sip-implementors] differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers

2009-12-09 Thread Manoj Priyankara [TG]
Dear All, Can anyone explain the differences between Via, Record-Route and Route headers? Further, are there any other routing related Headers associated with SIP? Thanks! BR, Manoj ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.ed

[Sip-implementors] SIP and RTP over 80 port

2009-12-09 Thread mosbah.abdelkader
Hello all, Has anyone tried to send or receive SIP and RTP over 80 port (HTTP port). If yes, can you give a description of the isuues and problems discovered. Thanks. ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://list

Re: [Sip-implementors] Handling retransmission for 200 OK- whenBYEreceived, before ACK for INVITE

2009-12-09 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Remember that there are two views of whether a dialog exists: one by the UAC and one by the UAS. The goal is for them to agree, but there are points in time when they don't agree. So when the UAS sends a response < 300 with to-tag, *it* thinks there is a dialog. This is true regardless of wheth

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Brez Borland
Hi Tom, I might have exaggerated this. But yes NAT provides security by explicitly isolating the network behind it. I guess the time when I will be able to get, say a hundred IP addresses for personal use are some good years away still. For SIP, I do believe that even today we still have to accoun

Re: [Sip-implementors] Handling retransmission for 200 OK- whenBYEreceived, before ACK for INVITE

2009-12-09 Thread sunil.bhagat
Thanks a lot. Regards, Sunil -Original Message- From: Ritul Sonania [mailto:ri...@in.niksun.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:35 PM To: Sunil Bhagat (WT01 - Telecom Equipment) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu; zhiqiang.z...@alcatel-sbell.com.cn Subject: RE: [Sip-impleme

Re: [Sip-implementors] Handling retransmission for 200 OK- whenBYEreceived, before ACK for INVITE

2009-12-09 Thread Ritul Sonania
> > Does this mean that there is no dialog?? Since 200 OK was lost in the > network? Or would the UAS maintain dialog information based on 200 OK > which it had sent... even though it was lost? I suggest you read the RFC Section 13.3.1.4 The 2xx response is passed to the transport with an

Re: [Sip-implementors] Handling retransmission for 200 OK- whenBYEreceived, before ACK for INVITE

2009-12-09 Thread sunil.bhagat
Does this mean that there is no dialog?? Since 200 OK was lost in the network? Or would the UAS maintain dialog information based on 200 OK which it had sent... even though it was lost? Regards, Sunil -Original Message- From: Ritul Sonania [mailto:ri...@in.niksun.com] Sent: Wednesday, De

Re: [Sip-implementors] REGISTER request, connection termination

2009-12-09 Thread Tom Uijldert
Inline. > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu > [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On > Behalf Of Brez Borland > Sent: woensdag 9 december 2009 0:43 > To: Dale Worley > Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > Subject: Re: [S